Illegal Pitch Penalty Redux

[youngump]

Originally Posted by SRW

I see your point tho... WHEN does the ball become dead? After the batter doesn't make contact, or at the conclusion of playing action (which could be considered after F2 throws down.).

From the rules as posted in the other thread by Dakota:
The ball is dead at the end of playing action, if the ball is pitched.

Thanks Steve for breaking it down.

Perhaps, the right way to square this is that if the award is from TOP then they weren't out at the awarded base since they had no liability. But if the out is after the awarded base it's meant to stand. And subsequent advances are fine because they advanced during a live ball before being awarded the previous base. Much like stealing third from first after the batter gets ball 4.
If the runners aren't actively moving, call time immediately, if they are wait and see.

One small thing:

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

And, that award is from the time of the pitch; that is when it became illegal, and that is the time it is called, therefore, like all other awarded bases, that is the basic time of the award.

The time of the award can't be when the pitch becomes illegal because the runners are still bound to their base. It has to be awarded once the ball is released.
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