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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

I think you are still seeing something that isn't there. In NFHS, if the ball isn't hit, and the batter does not become a batter-runner, then not having an option means, in effect, there was no subsequent playing action. Everything reverts to the time of the pitch, when the illegal pitch happened, and when it was called. That means, yes, the award is from the time of the pitch; one base from the base they were bound to prior to the pitch.

No subsequent action also means they cannot be out at any base; not at, prior to, or even after the awarded base. They are, as the award states, granted that award without liability. If they overrun in play that didn't happen, then they still aren't out. Once the ball is not hit, and the batter does not become a batter-runner, nothing has happened; the dead ball from the illegal pitch is the only possible result in NFHS.

In NCAA and ASA, since there is always the option, then subsequent play remains. But if the coach can and does accept the award, the award is one base from the time of the pitch; even if they overran that awarded base and were out in the play that has been declined by the coach with the option.

All of A (the award for the illegal pitch; or all of B (the result of the play). Period.

Nope, I'm reading something that's very clearly there. The ball is not dead at the end of the pitch. It's dead at the end of playing action. Your way is certainly simpler though.
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