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Old Wed Dec 17, 2008, 01:14am
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Whitten? Guessing again
I'm thinking go even earlier; Russ's mentor, Billy P.
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Old Wed Dec 17, 2008, 07:55am
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I'm thinking go even earlier; Russ's mentor, Billy P.
Well, there is no doubt that Billy P certainly was one not afraid to shake things up when it came to mechanics
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I don't see any reason to take this tool away from the umpires.
You're assuming that calling IP's is something that is wanted of us.
Or, worse yet, that the umpires assigned actually will call them when thrown.
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Old Wed Dec 17, 2008, 09:40am
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I will leave it up to MNBlue to say who the person is, but not any we have
brought to surface.
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Old Wed Dec 17, 2008, 10:46am
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You're assuming that calling IP's is something that is wanted of us.
Or, worse yet, that the umpires assigned actually will call them when thrown.
Sadly, you are correct. I do expect all to want the rules enforced and the enforcers to actually do the enforcing.
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Old Wed Dec 17, 2008, 12:39pm
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Sadly, you are correct. I do expect all to want the rules enforced and the enforcers to actually do the enforcing.
Coaches ALWAYS want the IP called.............when it is the other team's pitcher
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Old Wed Dec 17, 2008, 01:40pm
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Sadly, you are correct. I do expect all to want the rules enforced and the enforcers to actually do the enforcing.
Does NCAA still publish the Umpire Manual in Notebook style?

Thanks

Does ASA still publish the Umpire Clinic Guide as well as
the Case Book and are they available now?

Thanks
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Old Wed Dec 17, 2008, 03:22pm
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I purchased the NCAA Umpire manual from Referee.com, and brought it to my nearby Office Depot. For just over $3.00, they cut the binder and put a spiral bind on it, so now it is notebook style. They can also put a hard back cover and clear front protector; I just didn't do it this time (I did it last year, when I thought it was THE manual, not an annual reprint).

ASA now provides the Umpire Clinic Guide and Casebook on one CD; it's $15 at Officialgear.com. I do not believe they continue to make a printed version available.
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Old Wed Dec 17, 2008, 05:15pm
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Does NCAA still publish the Umpire Manual in Notebook style?

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No. They stopped that with the 2007 edition. If you want to see the new format, go to this thread and follow the link in the first post. 2009 CCA Umpire Manual
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Old Wed Dec 17, 2008, 06:38pm
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No. They stopped that with the 2007 edition. If you want to see the new format, go to this thread and follow the link in the first post. 2009 CCA Umpire Manual
Thanks, got my order in.
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Old Thu Dec 18, 2008, 09:07am
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I think I like it, despite some of the negatives that have been pointed out. I'd have to give this one a try though, which I wouldnt mind doing.
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Old Thu Dec 18, 2008, 11:04am
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I think I like it, despite some of the negatives that have been pointed out. I'd have to give this one a try though, which I wouldnt mind doing.
From my experience with the change when ASA did this in SP, it is great for the umpire.

My question though, is it good for the game and what is expected of the umpires?
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Old Thu Dec 18, 2008, 11:54am
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Quote Mike: My question though, is it good for the game and what is expected of the umpires?

To get the call right?
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Old Thu Dec 18, 2008, 01:34pm
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Sadly, you are correct. I do expect all to want the rules enforced and the enforcers to actually do the enforcing.
Is that like: Enforcing needs to be done by the enforcer so the required enforcement has been accomplished by the enforcer.
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Is that like: Enforcing needs to be done by the enforcer so the required enforcement has been accomplished by the enforcer.
Are you a lawyer?
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