NCAA Allowing ASA SP Mechanic????

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

And another reason for this suggested mechanic is to help BU with the pitcher being outside of the 24" (now that we have the lines).

Oh yeah...those lines that may last an inning.

I know that in two man I catch more illegal pitches when I am on the line rather than in the B position. In three man, again, I call more IP from either line than in the B position. I don't see any reason to take this tool away from the umpires.

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

I don't see any reason to take this tool away from the umpires.

You're assuming that calling IP's is something that is wanted of us.
Or, worse yet, that the umpires assigned actually will call them when thrown.

[whiskers_ump]

I will leave it up to MNBlue to say who the person is, but not any we have
brought to surface.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

You're assuming that calling IP's is something that is wanted of us.
Or, worse yet, that the umpires assigned actually will call them when thrown.

Sadly, you are correct. I do expect all to want the rules enforced and the enforcers to actually do the enforcing.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Sadly, you are correct. I do expect all to want the rules enforced and the enforcers to actually do the enforcing.

Coaches ALWAYS want the IP called.............when it is the other team's pitcher

[whiskers_ump]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Sadly, you are correct. I do expect all to want the rules enforced and the enforcers to actually do the enforcing.

Does NCAA still publish the Umpire Manual in Notebook style?

Thanks

Does ASA still publish the Umpire Clinic Guide as well as
the Case Book and are they available now?

Thanks

[AtlUmpSteve]

I purchased the NCAA Umpire manual from Referee.com, and brought it to my nearby Office Depot. For just over $3.00, they cut the binder and put a spiral bind on it, so now it is notebook style. They can also put a hard back cover and clear front protector; I just didn't do it this time (I did it last year, when I thought it was THE manual, not an annual reprint).

ASA now provides the Umpire Clinic Guide and Casebook on one CD; it's $15 at Officialgear.com. I do not believe they continue to make a printed version available.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by whiskers_ump

Does NCAA still publish the Umpire Manual in Notebook style?

Thanks

No. They stopped that with the 2007 edition. If you want to see the new format, go to this thread and follow the link in the first post. 2009 CCA Umpire Manual

[whiskers_ump]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

No. They stopped that with the 2007 edition. If you want to see the new format, go to this thread and follow the link in the first post. 2009 CCA Umpire Manual

Thanks, got my order in.

[wadeintothem]

I think I like it, despite some of the negatives that have been pointed out. I'd have to give this one a try though, which I wouldnt mind doing.

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Sadly, you are correct. I do expect all to want the rules enforced and the enforcers to actually do the enforcing.

Is that like: Enforcing needs to be done by the enforcer so the required enforcement has been accomplished by the enforcer.

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000

Is that like: Enforcing needs to be done by the enforcer so the required enforcement has been accomplished by the enforcer.

Are you a lawyer?

[JefferMC]

Could you educate someone who doesn't have a clue as to the relationship between the NCAA and the CCA and why the NCAA would publish a rulebook, but the CCA would separatly publish an umpire's manual.

I could just barely make out the "Collegiate Commisioners Association" on the top of the book, and I googled that, so I now have some idea what the CCA is, but still not why the rules and umpire's manual aren't both best handled by the NCAA.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by JefferMC

Could you educate someone who doesn't have a clue as to the relationship between the NCAA and the CCA and why the NCAA would publish a rulebook, but the CCA would separatly publish an umpire's manual.

I could just barely make out the "Collegiate Commisioners Association" on the top of the book, and I googled that, so I now have some idea what the CCA is, but still not why the rules and umpire's manual aren't both best handled by the NCAA.

Just a guess, but probably partly because the NCAA does not do sports officials. Local umpire associations which meet particular standards contract with leagues, conferences, schools whichever the case may be, for providing qualified umpires to work their games.

[topper]

Originally Posted by JefferMC

Could you educate someone who doesn't have a clue as to the relationship between the NCAA and the CCA and why the NCAA would publish a rulebook, but the CCA would separatly publish an umpire's manual.

I could just barely make out the "Collegiate Commisioners Association" on the top of the book, and I googled that, so I now have some idea what the CCA is, but still not why the rules and umpire's manual aren't both best handled by the NCAA.

Unlike ASA, the NCAA governs the game but not the officials. "NCAA" mechanics" is just the term for the mechanics set used to work collegate games and were not developed by the NCAA.