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[whiskers_ump]

Did anyone see the shot in the 8th down the line, where the left field umpire
ran for his life looking towards the fence, then at the fence, turned and
signalled foul. His call was correct, but he never saw it.

S Carolina vs Purtorico 5-5 8th

[BretMan]

Yep- saw it and thought the same thing.

How about the play where the kid slid across first base (touching the colored portion), went past the bag, reached back and touched the orange portion, then was tagged. The announcers were adamant that the runner should have been out because she did not return to the white portion of the bag.

Anybody know if that is a Little League interpretation? Do they not use the "one big bag after the initial play" interp, like ASA?

[SethPDX]

I saw both those plays in person. I admit, I did chuckle a little on the hit down the line. And watching live I had no idea until now what the coach was asking about on the play at first.

Whoops. I was wrong. LL does require the runner to return to the white half. I would have missed this in one of my LL games.

The crews in both semis tonight looked good to me.

Final was SC 7, PR 6 in 10. Great game.

[CajunNewBlue]

watched both games "central vs. east" and "south vs. latin america"
Loved the baseball mechanics (not!!)
And the right field umpire running out to right field and triple signaling no catch on a ball that was at least 5 feet away from the fielder...guess he needed his 15 seconds... sigh.
And the blown out call on the girl returning to second.(dude! she was so safe)
Also I guess taking off your mask on a snap throw to second and then back to home for a tag out at the plate ..is optional.
Athough the umpires had perfect mechanics during the chicken dance. IMHO.
Yes, I know its easy to critique umpires from the comfort of my sofa.... but I fully expect the same from them when its my turn.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by BretMan

Yep- saw it and thought the same thing.

How about the play where the kid slid across first base (touching the colored portion), went past the bag, reached back and touched the orange portion, then was tagged. The announcers were adamant that the runner should have been out because she did not return to the white portion of the bag.

Anybody know if that is a Little League interpretation? Do they not use the "one big bag after the initial play" interp, like ASA?

Regardless, I have a safe runner that legally overran (overslid) first base, made no attempt to second, and I am denying the appeal as she returns to the base (she just hasn't finished returning, yet). She was not in jeopardy when she was tagged, IMO.

[BretMan]

Did you by chance see the play?

The runner, after overslidding first, lunged back toward the orange bag. She was lying on the ground with her hand on the orange bag, making no attempt whatsoever to reach the white portion. At that point, she was tagged.

It looked to me like any effort to return was over by the time she was tagged. She just returned to the wrong bag. Definitely not an out under ASA rules, apparently an out under Little League rules.

[AtlUmpSteve]

No, just going on the play description here. I still think it is a stretch to call her in jeopardy after overrunning; put it back in those terms. A runner overruns first, heads back, and stops just short of the bag. When do you declare that runner in jeopardy,

Now, add to this case that she was stretched out (your description), and probably needed a moment to get back up. Is she in jeopardy?? Maybe, but very mucha stretch, in my mind (and not seeing the play).

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by BretMan

...It looked to me like any effort to return was over by the time she was tagged...

I didn't see the play. Assuming there is no question that no try was made for 2B...

Suppose she had made NO effort to return? Suppose she had just lay there on the ground while she was tagged?

IOW, how do you determine that she was finished returning, and is that question even relevant?