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How bad was the PU in last night's CA vs FL game? Let me count the ways.
1. Where was this guys strike zone? Did he have a strike zone? I can't believe how much he was squeezing both pitchers. Especially Pimentel of CA. 2. Missed HR call aside. Why was he talking to the BU at 3rd about what he saw and not the FU in left who made the call? Why didn't he gather the entire crew together to find out exactly what each of them saw or didn't see? 3. When the CA coach called time and complained that Dante Bichette Sr. was "taunting" his 1B coach and his batter the PU did nothing. No informing Bichette about the CA complaint. No warning about taunting. Nothing. 4. In the 5th, after a FL batter struck out swinging the 3B coach for FL questioned the PU as to whether the pitch was fouled. The PU said that the pitch went off the C's glove and then off his protector (which was the correct call). But the coach then said something to him along the lines of "how could you be sure you got that one right, you didn't get the HR call right". A coach still complaining about a call that happened two innings earlier? The PU should have either run him right there or at least told him that if he said one more word about the HR call that his day would be over. This PU took charge of nothing and let the FL coaches run all over him. Not a very good example of umpiring at this level. It gives all of us a bad name. 
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Thu Aug 25, 2005, 12:38pm
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Thu Aug 25, 2005, 12:49pm
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I really don't want to belabor the LL bashing that's been going on lately on this board, but I watched that game and the PU was driving me nuts.
His strike zone was inconsistent. He was definitely sqeezing Pimentel. What the hell kind of plate stance was that anyway. He would squat down with his body straight up like he had a pole up his whazoo. And he signaled strikes/outs like a freaking SOFTBALL UMPIRE!!! And how could six umpires on a small diamond miss the fact that the ball hit about two feet up the screen on the foul pole. GEEZ! And "that's a strike" is just unnecessary.
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Thu Aug 25, 2005, 01:39pm
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I wonder about the different mechanics on strike calls...the PU would point for a called strike, but give the hammer for a swinging strike (while saying 'thats a strike!' *eyeroll*)
why do it differently? use one and stick to it!
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Thu Aug 25, 2005, 02:05pm
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Thu Aug 25, 2005, 03:48pm
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Re: Home Run Call?
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The batted ball hit the left-side foul pole screen 18"-24" above the top of the padded wall [Made a *Thunk*!] then bounced down on the padded wall (back into the playing field) and rolled into foul territory. Heck, it even sounded "Fair".  mick
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Thu Aug 25, 2005, 03:57pm
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The Umps Blew it!!!
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The LFU had his head up his @&& and missed an obvious HR. He turned late to the ball and missed it hitting the webbing of the foul pole screen beyond the fence. He was only 25' from the spot where the ball hit the webbing. The ball bounced back into fair territory, and for some reason he signaled it was a GRD. The PU, who had sucked all night, then went to the 3rd base ump to ask what he saw. He never called the crew together to discuss it. The PU lost control of the game IMO, and was lucky he didn't have a mass ejection on his hands he sucked so bad! The third base coach from Ca. went back to the box after asking the PU to stop the Fla. dugout from taunting his players and coaches, and he said while miked up, " ****, even I can hear em'!" The 3rd base ump just stood there dumbfounded. Tim. [Edited by BigUmp56 on Aug 25th, 2005 at 04:59 PM]
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Thu Aug 25, 2005, 03:57pm
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(note: could have been someone other than GD, but whoever it was is using the GD stance)
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Thu Aug 25, 2005, 04:20pm
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Kind of like this, Squat, slump, announce "thats a strike", squat bring both arms up simultaneously, announce the count, sqat, slump, "that a stike". He had the routine down pretty dang good.
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Thu Aug 25, 2005, 04:41pm
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He had a very consistent strike zone, anything thrown through a dixe cup sized hole, thigh high, across the middle, was a strike. Anything else was a ball.
The stance was a squat, with arms straight down by his side, hands in a fist, behind his legs. He looked very motionless on the pitch, but, the dixie cup zone was just too tight. Both pitchers were visibly frustrated, but to their credit kept their composure. The LFU blew the HR call, and he was very close to the wall. You have to be when you are in a 6 man crew on a 200 foot field. The PU could have gotten the crew together and possibly got that one correct, although 3BU seemed to agree with LFU. HR miss call did not have much bearing on the game since it did not end with one team up by 1.
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Thu Aug 25, 2005, 05:49pm
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