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Old Sat Aug 09, 2008, 02:44pm
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Question on LL

Something I noticed at my nieces LL softball playoffs that I did not think much of until today while watching LL baseball regionals.

The umpires make a safe call w/signal when a runner touches the plate or 1B whether there is a play or not. Is that just the umpires I happened to see or is that a practiced mechanic for LL ball?

BTW, I'm watching NH v CT and this guy must be a softball umpire giving every bit of the corners, and maybe then some. And that is a good thing!
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Old Sat Aug 09, 2008, 03:15pm
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Watching the Senior LL Softball on ESPN 2. Home Plate umpire using baseball strike mechanics.
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Old Sat Aug 09, 2008, 03:59pm
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Watching the Senior LL Softball on ESPN 2. Home Plate umpire using baseball strike mechanics.
Notice the corn fields beyond the outfield fence. This place is in the middle of nowhere.
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Old Sat Aug 09, 2008, 04:03pm
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Watching the Senior LL Softball on ESPN 2. Home Plate umpire using baseball strike mechanics.
I don't know. OBS was the obvious call, but from behind the play it looked like the runner initiated contact laying the shoulder into the catcher instead of going for the plate.

I would ask if LL allows for "about to receive", but then I heard the TH say the catcher is allowed to be there because the ball was on the way. If they said it, it must be true.
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Old Sat Aug 09, 2008, 04:47pm
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In my area we only give the safe sign if there is a play. Everyone is different, of course

"About to receive" was removed from the LL baseball/softball books about 6 years ago. As in ASA or NFHS the fielder must have the ball.

I'll be at our World Series in Portland tomorrow and Monday, so you might get some "bonus coverage" before the TV games. The best parts of being there: The ice cream at the concession stand (the fields are owned by the dairy that makes Baskin & Robbins)...and not hearing Michele Smith!
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Old Sat Aug 09, 2008, 05:06pm
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Watching the NJ/PR game on ESPN. I know the plate umpire. He is a high school baseball ump. Calling the strike zone like I would, but using baseball style signals.
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Old Sat Aug 09, 2008, 05:45pm
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I would ask if LL allows for "about to receive", but then I heard the TH say the catcher is allowed to be there because the ball was on the way. If they said it, it must be true.
I'm new here but I though the comment about the hands being part of the bat was laughable too.
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I'm new here but I though the comment about the hands being part of the bat was laughable too.
Welcome to the board!

You are correct, it is laughable. I missed the actual pitch, so I'm not sure if the umpire was correct or not.
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Old Sat Aug 09, 2008, 05:51pm
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Watching the NJ/PR game on ESPN. I know the plate umpire. He is a high school baseball ump. Calling the strike zone like I would, but using baseball style signals.
I don't know, there were some worm burners called strikes.
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Old Sat Aug 09, 2008, 05:54pm
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Welcome to the board!

You are correct, it is laughable. I missed the actual pitch, so I'm not sure if the umpire was correct or not.
Thanks for the welcome.

Batter squared to offer on a bunt attempt and the ball hit her upper, right, hand.

OC was looking for the HBP and award.
Umpire called dead ball and a ball since her hand was out of the zone.

Commentator said there was no HBP award because "the hand is part of the bat". I can't believe that myth is still kept alive by idiots like this.
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Indiana v Ohio in BB Great Lakes Regional.

THs just made similar statement. "If swinging it would be a foul ball because the hands are part of the bat". But since the batter checked up, it was HBP.

Got it wrong, again! Where do they get these morons?
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Indiana v Ohio in BB Great Lakes Regional.

THs just made similar statement. "If swinging it would be a foul ball because the hands are part of the bat". But since the batter checked up, it was HBP.

Got it wrong, again! Where do they get these morons?
JF trains them.
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Another things I've noticed. Some of the plate umpires don't remove the mask for much of anything except between inning and communicating with a coach and the BUs are calling time to brush the base anytime a player slides into a base.
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Another things I've noticed. Some of the plate umpires don't remove the mask for much of anything except between inning and communicating with a coach and the BUs are calling time to brush the base anytime a player slides into a base.
Guess they are not chewing REDMAN then.
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Indiana v Ohio in BB Great Lakes Regional.

THs just made similar statement. "If swinging it would be a foul ball because the hands are part of the bat". But since the batter checked up, it was HBP.

Got it wrong, again! Where do they get these morons?
Did you catch the TH explanation of how an appeal must be made? "The pitcher must step on the rubber, the ball put in play. He then must step off and have time granted..." Hoo boy.
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