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Old Tue Aug 05, 2008, 10:18am
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By the way Dave, did it take you less time to drive home than it did to complet the two plate games you did Thursday and Friday?
O real funny....ok I laughed To let everyone else in on the joke, my last two plate games of the tournament (combined) went 5 hours 20 minutes there were 35 runs scored and we played 13 1/2 innings, yes thats right 1 went 6 1/2 the other 7, so no extra inning games just a couple of long drawn out lot of scoring games. You know I just wanted to get good and warm in that plate gear!! No wonder those were my last plate games huh? Worked bases Saturday and Sunday, old Wild Bill wasnt taking a chance on me putting the games behind

Back to OP about experience at Nationals this year:
I think I was on the diamond for the only official protest of the tournament. Short version, F3 fielding a dribbler down 1st base line, it hits the heal of her glove and goes about 2 feet to her left as she is reaching for the ball BR contacts her right foot and spins her she had her hand on the ball when the contact was made, so in our judgement she still had the chance at an out (actually went ahead and threw it and did get the out if it would have continued on)....but we called the INT and sent runner back to 1st...SO what did he protest? He protested our interpertation of the INT rule, he said after F3 contacted the ball and it went away from her there was no longer a chance of INT per the rule. Well we all know that is false, heck even if another fielder has a chance at an out on a muffed ball you can have an out for INT. BUT that was what he protested, well needless to say protest went in our favor and we got back to playing. Other than that and the above listed marathon plate games it was a smooth tournament. One of the best group of umpires I have ever had the honor of working with and it showed with the way the games went. And I have not been to Bloomington, IN for a national yet (even though I am an Indiana guy) but I have to say the two Illinois Nationals I have been to they treat umpires VERY well, I would not hestitate to go to another over there if I am granted the assignment!!
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Old Tue Aug 05, 2008, 01:10pm
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For all you guys doing Nationals...no one's mentioned the most important thing...

Did everybody's pants match?

Seriously, how did the whole "buy your pants from us" thing work out. Was there a uniform uniformity among the uniforms? Anybody get busted for not having "official pants"?
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Old Tue Aug 05, 2008, 05:07pm
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For all you guys doing Nationals...no one's mentioned the most important thing...

Did everybody's pants match?

Seriously, how did the whole "buy your pants from us" thing work out. Was there a uniform uniformity among the uniforms? Anybody get busted for not having "official pants"?

----- NO-----!!!!!

I scrambled to buy new Fechheimer's myself from ASA properties. They were shipped in plenty of time. Get to the clinic at Nat, and lo and behold, we were informed we wouldn't be "counted against" if we did not have ASA properties Fechheimers. There was supposedly a little more demand than supply.

There were a few pants that were really different in shade. I also referred above to ASA properties Fechheimers and Fechheimers. There is a difference! I had several pair of Fechheimers, but none with "western cut pockets" so I had to get the "official" stuff. All mine were also combos, which are not available through ASA, so I had to buy plate as well as base pants! It seemed the prevailing thought was as long as they are Fechheimers it's ok!

I could have "got away" with what I had, but have no regrets doing as ASA deemed I should do even though I hate those western cut pockets!
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Old Tue Aug 05, 2008, 07:42pm
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For all you guys doing Nationals...no one's mentioned the most important thing...

Did everybody's pants match?

Seriously, how did the whole "buy your pants from us" thing work out. Was there a uniform uniformity among the uniforms? Anybody get busted for not having "official pants"?
Some (a few) were using Honigs etc.. with the excuse that ASA was out of their size pants.

Overall, looked good though.

I'm with ASA intent that we shouldnt be wearing the 14.95 walley world gray pants... but I think heather gray UMPIRE pants should be allowed..

It was a nonissue at our tourney.
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Old Wed Aug 06, 2008, 03:29am
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To let everyone else in on the joke, my last two plate games of the tournament (combined) went 5 hours 20 minutes there were 35 runs scored and we played 13 1/2 innings, yes thats right 1 went 6 1/2 the other 7, so no extra inning games just a couple of long drawn out lot of scoring games. You know I just wanted to get good and warm in that plate gear!! No wonder those were my last plate games huh? Worked bases Saturday and Sunday, old Wild Bill wasnt taking a chance on me putting the games behind
OK, who told Dave he was getting paid by the pitch?
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Old Wed Aug 06, 2008, 09:34am
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OK, who told Dave he was getting paid by the pitch?
You don't?

However, that is a good discussion. How many were paid the minimum permitted by code ($18per game, $25 begining 2009) and who was paid more?
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Old Wed Aug 06, 2008, 10:23am
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However, that is a good discussion. How many were paid the minimum permitted by code ($18per game, $25 begining 2009) and who was paid more?
We paid out $20/assignment at the 18A-Western here in Seattle.
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Old Wed Aug 06, 2008, 11:01am
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We paid out $20/assignment at the 18A-Western here in Seattle.
At the 10U-B/18U-A Northern National in Rochester, MN, we were paid the minimum.
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Old Wed Aug 06, 2008, 11:04am
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We got $20/assignment at the ASA/USA 16U in Kentucky.
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Old Wed Aug 06, 2008, 11:11am
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Just out of curiosity, are traveling costs on the umpire or are they covered/reimbursed by ASA?
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Old Wed Aug 06, 2008, 02:26pm
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You don't?

However, that is a good discussion. How many were paid the minimum permitted by code ($18per game, $25 begining 2009) and who was paid more?
In the NAFA 18U, we got $29.00 for pool games and $29.00 for bracket games.

$27.00 for warm up games on Sunday. Pre-Nationals used
to get teams familiar with the fields. 1 hr. finish batter.

Had 6 warm up games, and 13 pool/bracket.
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Old Wed Aug 06, 2008, 06:14pm
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You don't?

However, that is a good discussion. How many were paid the minimum permitted by code ($18per game, $25 begining 2009) and who was paid more?

The Mrs and I were Host Exchange at 12B in Gadsden, AL. Gadsden paid $25.00 per game which was an unexpected surprise. All were housed and fed well, Alabama umpires recieved travel re-imbursement, Georgia umpires did not, and I'm not sure about the guy from Alaska.
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