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tmielke Thu May 29, 2008 09:05am

Hands together
 
ASA and NFHS

What constitutes bringing the hands together for the pitcher.

Hand and ball in glove?

Ball partially in glove?

Some sort of contact with the glove and the ball?

Etc. Etc. Etc.

My thought on this have been ball completely in glove.

Right/Wrong?

Anything in writing from NFHS or ASA on this?

Thanks
Tom

3afan Thu May 29, 2008 09:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmielke
ASA and NFHS
Hand and ball in glove?

Ball partially in glove?

Some sort of contact with the glove and the ball?

any of the above but at least "Some sort of contact with the glove and the ball"

CecilOne Thu May 29, 2008 09:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmielke
ASA and NFHS

What constitutes bringing the hands together for the pitcher.

Hand and ball in glove?

Ball partially in glove?

Some sort of contact with the glove and the ball?

Etc. Etc. Etc.

My thought on this have been ball completely in glove.

Right/Wrong?

Anything in writing from NFHS or ASA on this?

Thanks
Tom

Any point on the PP after the "signal taking" pause when the hands touch and one or both are holding the ball.

argodad Thu May 29, 2008 09:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmielke
ASA and NFHS

What constitutes bringing the hands together for the pitcher.

Hand and ball in glove?

Ball partially in glove?

Some sort of contact with the glove and the ball?

Etc. Etc. Etc.

My thought on this have been ball completely in glove.

Right/Wrong?

Anything in writing from NFHS or ASA on this?

Thanks
Tom

Neither ASA nor NFHS require the ball be in - or partially in - the glove ... just that the hands come together.

IRISHMAFIA Thu May 29, 2008 09:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmielke
ASA and NFHS

What constitutes bringing the hands together for the pitcher.

Hand and ball in glove?

Ball partially in glove?

Some sort of contact with the glove and the ball?

Etc. Etc. Etc.

My thought on this have been ball completely in glove.

Right/Wrong?

Anything in writing from NFHS or ASA on this?

Thanks
Tom

Try this exercise:

Put your hands:

palm to back of hand
palm to palm
thumb to thumb, knuckle to knuckle
end of any finger on the right hand to any finger on the left hand.

Working on the premise of anything outside the wrist is part of the hand, was there any circumstance where right and left did not come together?

CecilOne Thu May 29, 2008 09:43am

Responses on this forum are really slowing down. ;) :) :)

tmielke Thu May 29, 2008 10:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
Try this exercise:

Put your hands:

palm to back of hand
palm to palm
thumb to thumb, knuckle to knuckle
end of any finger on the right hand to any finger on the left hand.

Working on the premise of anything outside the wrist is part of the hand, was there any circumstance where right and left did not come together?


I actually did something like this. I asked 6 people, that had no clue why I was asking, to put their hands together. They all put them together as you would if praying or they clasped them together. My way of thinking is touching the ball to the tip of the glove is not together, just touching.

Oh well. Learned something new. I probably shouldn't call it different than everybody else!

JefferMC Thu May 29, 2008 12:31pm

How about waving them within 4 or 5 inches of each other? :rolleyes:

CecilOne Thu May 29, 2008 12:42pm

:cool:
Quote:

Originally Posted by JefferMC
How about waving them within 4 or 5 inches of each other? :rolleyes:

In the 7th inning when it's raining ??? ;)

7in60 Thu May 29, 2008 05:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmielke
ASA and NFHS

What constitutes bringing the hands together for the pitcher.

For me, it is the motion, not the contact.

SC Ump Thu May 29, 2008 05:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmielke
Some sort of contact with the glove and the ball?

For at least [close to] one second, right?

NYBLUE Thu May 29, 2008 06:42pm

Someone once told me the P can bring her throwing hand (with ball) behind the glove, thus concealing the ball behind the glove, and that constitutes bringing the hands together.

Any thoughts on this?

IRISHMAFIA Thu May 29, 2008 06:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYBLUE
Someone once told me the P can bring her throwing hand (with ball) behind the glove, thus concealing the ball behind the glove, and that constitutes bringing the hands together.

Any thoughts on this?

Can you say for sure that the hands did not touch?

NYBLUE Thu May 29, 2008 06:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
Can you say for sure that the hands did not touch?


From the PU position...... NO.
It's impossible to know for sure if the two hands touched.

IRISHMAFIA Thu May 29, 2008 07:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYBLUE
From the PU position...... NO.
It's impossible to know for sure if the two hands touched.

Then you didn't see a violation.


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