Really disapointed in the forum

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

If there is something in which to be disappointed, it certainly isn't this forum.

That statement sums it up nicely.

[Skahtboi]

Hey Tom! Where is that picture you normally post in these situations???

[bkbjones]

Originally Posted by snorman75

Let me know what you all think.[/I]

OK, you want a rule, there is a nice little rule in Section 10 that says the UMPIRE has the authority to rule on anything not specifically covered in the rules. Not a pissy coach, not an angry fan. The umpire. Base or plate.

What do I think? I think maybe you too have joined the ranks of ucking fidiots. Good luck in your other forum, and don't let the doorknob hit you in the @$$ on the way out.

[DaveASA/FED]

Originally Posted by snorman75

OK, I posted this question a few weeks ago and the closest I got to a answer was "asa changed the rules"

Are you kidding me? No citations, nothing, just I think this is it. Well you should know it does not matter what the you think, it matter what you know and prove.

" Double first call from foul territory on a runner

OK, fast pitch high school Softball NY ASA rules

No outs runner on first. Pop up to first baseman, caught in foul ground, beats the runner back to first, BUT uses the colored section, not the white, to make the play.
Partner, on the bases, calls her out. First base coach appeals that she can not use colored section. I uses the the rule that the first baseman can use the colored base when the play comes from foul territory.

Well I changed my mind after reading the rules, 8.2.M.4 which uses the words batter-runner not runner.

The question is in 8.2.M.7 that states both sections of first can be used in a tag up. Does this mean offensively and defensively or just offensively as I read it?

Let me know what you all think.

Thanks"

Ok the above from your post, part from your OP that "we" let you down on. The bold part is my addition, and it appears that you already had the rule citations, so WTF were you looking for? To me, and I didn't post to the original as it appeared to be covered pretty well, you were asking for our opinions as to which rule was the correct one to cover this situation, to make sure you understood these rules and how they worked together to cover different game situations, that was done, in the future if you ask you shall receive but make sure you ask for what you want.

[NCASAUmp]

Bah, he's a goner, gentlemen. Let him go.

Or maybe a boner. Yeah. Boner.

[jwwashburn]

Oy vey.

Originally Posted by snorman75

OK, I posted this question a few weeks ago and the closest I got to a answer was "asa changed the rules"

Are you kidding me? No citations, nothing, just I think this is it. Well you should know it does not matter what the you think, it matter what you know and prove.

I have to tell you reading the ASA rules there is no double first base on any plays made on a runner for the defense. Did forget to mention to site my answer on checking with a state's head ASA umpire?

I know I have a real problem with umps that go on feeling, not the rules. I have to assume you all did that with not ONE citation to any rules.

Here is the question again see if you can do any better, or prove me wrong.

" Double first call from foul territory on a runner

OK, fast pitch high school Softball NY ASA rules

No outs runner on first. Pop up to first baseman, caught in foul ground, beats the runner back to first, BUT uses the colored section, not the white, to make the play.
Partner, on the bases, calls her out. First base coach appeals that she can not use colored section. I uses the the rule that the first baseman can use the colored base when the play comes from foul territory.

Well I changed my mind after reading the rules, 8.2.M.4 which uses the words batter-runner not runner.

The question is in 8.2.M.7 that states both sections of first can be used in a tag up. Does this mean offensively and defensively or just offensively as I read it?

Let me know what you all think.

Thanks"