Eager Partner?

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

So just to go down the slippery slope here if some signals are dumb but others are fine... do you pick and choose which rules to apply based on what you think is dumb ... we enforce all the rules for a reason those signals are all used for a reason

Use the signals in the NCAA Softball Umpire's Manual if you are doing a college game and the FED signals if it's a high school game. If it's rec ball, use the signals that the rule set is being played under. Many of the rec games use standard ASA mechanics for umpire to umpire signals.

If your umpire association UIC has specific signals s/he wants used then KTBDH. (Keep The Big Dog Happy)

[kcg NC2Ablu]

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000

Use the signals in the NCAA Softball Umpire's Manual if you are doing a college game and the FED signals if it's a high school game. If it's rec ball, use the signals that the rule set is being played under. Many of the rec games use standard ASA mechanics for umpire to umpire signals.

If your umpire association UIC has specific signals s/he wants used then KTBDH. (Keep The Big Dog Happy)

If you pre-game something with your partner it for communication purposes I dont know any UIC that will ding you for that. And since rundowns are in my pregame it will be pregamed if some one has a problem with it we always work to a comprimse.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Whatever happened to the good ol' days when a pregame was:

U1: Partner, everything by the book.
U2: You got it!

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Whatever happened to the good ol' days when a pregame was:

U1: Partner, everything by the book.
U2: You got it!

That's still what I do, mostly. Other than reminders of various things, we (partner and I) only get off into other stuff if he brings it up.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by Dakota

That's still what I do, mostly. Other than reminders of various things, we (partner and I) only get off into other stuff if he brings it up.

Thats also mine.. pregames take about 15-30 seconds...

Some one in our assoc laminated this hugh list for pregame official/pregame coach and handed them out.

Funny.... thank god I've never had any partner pull that dang thing out.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Thats also mine.. pregames take about 15-30 seconds...

Some one in our assoc laminated this hugh list for pregame official/pregame coach and handed them out.

Funny.... thank god I've never had any partner pull that dang thing out.

I actually have. Last year, a guy I was working playoffs with pulled out a wipe off board and a list and starting going through everything item by item. Guess what? It was all by the book. He could have saved us all 15 minutes.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

I actually have. Last year, a guy I was working playoffs with pulled out a wipe off board and a list and starting going through everything item by item. Guess what? It was all by the book. He could have saved us all 15 minutes.

Apparently, Glen didn't trust you........oops, did I say/type that out loud

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

I actually have. Last year, a guy I was working playoffs with pulled out a wipe off board and a list and starting going through everything item by item. Guess what? It was all by the book. He could have saved us all 15 minutes.

I've been doing something similar (not as huge) this year when I work with partners I haven't worked with before. I want to know that their interpretation of 'by the book' is.

[kcg NC2Ablu]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

I actually have. Last year, a guy I was working playoffs with pulled out a wipe off board and a list and starting going through everything item by item. Guess what? It was all by the book. He could have saved us all 15 minutes.

My pregame sheet is quick easy and paiinless. I ask if whoever Im working with has a question about something that I run through if they do we talk about it. Having a white board isnt a bad tool if your going over something with a new umpire or someone who hasnt worked three man before but if you ask if everyone(or just your partner) and they say yes ... no need to go through all that. Also saying everything is "by book" is hard if the people you work with dont have the book let alone know how to read it.

[argodad]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Thats also mine.. pregames take about 15-30 seconds...

Some one in our assoc laminated this hugh list for pregame official/pregame coach and handed them out.

Funny.... thank god I've never had any partner pull that dang thing out.

The best umpires (IMHO) at the Florida Junior College tournament used the laminated 8.5"x11" pre-game form. They were all D-I umpires (SEC, ACC, CUSA and other conferences). It might have been a bit of overkill, but we sure had a thorough pre-game.

Now, if you're working 2-man with partners you've known for a long time, you don't need it ... but it was helpful in this case.

[DaveASA/FED]

Bad thing is you shouldn't need that much pregame conversation....like several have said "I umpire by the book mechanics" "great, lets go". BUT how many times have you had this conversation and then have a BU that wants to call the lead runner into 3rd? Or rule on a tag up at 3rd? Or worse working 3 person.....and everyone is good with it prior to the game, then both field umpires go out on a ball hit to center or a U3 is working their way to 3rd on a base hit to the outfield with no one on and PU is standing there for the play.....thinking by the book this is mine surely he/she will stop at 2nd, surely they are releasing the runner to me....

[celebur]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Whatever happened to the good ol' days when a pregame was:

U1: Partner, everything by the book.
U2: You got it!

Or how about:

U1: Partner, everything by the book.
U2: (touches ear)