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Old Wed Apr 30, 2008, 04:42pm
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Is the runner required to touch (under their own power) all the bases or is it sufficient for the preceding runners to drag a lifeless body over the bases.

Dragging the body across the bases would be sufficient.

However, there's quite a dispute raging in the YSISF over whether the run counts if the preceding runner rolls just the BR's head across the bases. There's a game under protest where the umpires ruled that such a run counted, and the teams are awaiting an official ruling.
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2008, 05:06pm
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Is the runner required to touch (under their own power) all the bases or is it sufficient for the preceding runners to drag a lifeless body over the bases.

Dragging the body across the bases would be sufficient.

However, there's quite a dispute raging in the YSISF over whether the run counts if the preceding runner rolls just the BR's head across the bases. There's a game under protest where the umpires ruled that such a run counted, and the teams are awaiting an official ruling.
Yeah, they lop off a body part to leave on each base, hence the phrase, "heading for home".
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2008, 05:51pm
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An interesting blurb from this story today on KOMO TV 4:

Frederick, the Central Washington coach, said he later got a clarification from an umpiring supervisor, who said NCAA rules allow a substitute to run for a player who is injured after a home run.
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2008, 06:39pm
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An interesting blurb from this story today on KOMO TV 4:

Frederick, the Central Washington coach, said he later got a clarification from an umpiring supervisor, who said NCAA rules allow a substitute to run for a player who is injured after a home run.
That was easy

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Old Wed Apr 30, 2008, 10:22pm
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However, there's quite a dispute raging in the YSISF over whether the run counts if the preceding runner rolls just the BR's head across the bases. There's a game under protest where the umpires ruled that such a run counted, and the teams are awaiting an official ruling.
I still haven't found the rule regarding a defensive player whose head rolls across a base on a force out if the body is still in possession of the ball.

God, I'm sick.
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

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I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2008, 10:32pm
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I still haven't found the rule regarding a defensive player whose head rolls across a base on a force out if the body is still in possession of the ball.

God, I'm sick.
Get your head back into the books and you'll find. The umpires in this situation should be more head strong. I'll quit now
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2008, 10:33pm
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Get your head back into the books and you'll find. The umpires in this situation should be more head strong. I'll quit now
Quit while you're... ahead?
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2008, 10:35pm
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I still haven't found the rule regarding a defensive player whose head rolls across a base on a force out if the body is still in possession of the ball.

God, I'm sick.
That would be rule L-XVI

Effect: Every one but the severed head get cake during the semi-delayed "I'm not dead yet" ball.

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Old Thu May 01, 2008, 11:16am
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I still haven't found the rule regarding a defensive player whose head rolls across a base on a force out if the body is still in possession of the ball.

If you have the latest YSISF case book, see Case Play CCLXVII, Section III. This was never an issue until recently, because it has virtually always been a member of the offensive team (a runner or coach) who was responsible for the separation of the defensive player's head from his body. In those cases, the call is simply interference and, if the umpire believes the violation was with intent to break up a double play, the runner closest to home is also out. However, in a recent heated and emotional game, a defensive player decapitated his own teammate who cut in front of him to field a bases-loaded ground ball. The head rolled across 2B in time, and the defense wanted a force out. The umpires ruled that because the head did not possess the ball, the runner was safe, and the official case play supports that interpretation.
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Old Thu May 01, 2008, 02:06pm
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I just read a story about a recent YSISF game where, in the 5th inning stretch, they did not have the traditional singing of "Take Me Out to the Ballgame."

Instead, it was "Goin' Out of My Head (Over You)." Any truth to this scandalous rumor?
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Old Fri May 02, 2008, 04:48am
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As NCAA's umpires this is embarassing not to know a rule. "You can question this umpire's judgment but not his knowledge of the rules" has been my moto for 10 + years
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