Injury on a home run

[Az.Ump]

8.5.1.1 Any player may be substituted for at any time when the ball is
dead.

8.5.3.2 If an injury to a batter-runner or runner prevents her from
proceeding to an awarded base, the ball is dead and substitution may
be made. The substitute must legally touch all awarded or missed
bases not previously touched.

Paul

[Dakota]

Is a home run considered an awarded base?

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Is a home run considered an awarded base?

Tough call...

The call I'd make on the field is yes.

[bkbjones]

Ahem...clearing throat...
I blame the whole thing on the assignor.

[BuggBob]

Originally Posted by bkbjones

Ahem...clearing throat...
I blame the whole thing on the assignor.

Why???

[SRW]

Originally Posted by BuggBob

Why???

...a verrrrrry long story, told over beers.

[SRW]

The Seattle Times article - effectively the same story, but has a photo as well...

[Andy]

Originally Posted by bkbjones

Ahem...clearing throat...
I blame the whole thing on the assignor.

Originally Posted by SRW

...a verrrrrry long story, told over beers.

I figured there was a story here when I read John's post.....

[greymule]

Yes, a home run creates awarded bases. The umps should have let a substitute runner complete the home run. (I guess the batter would be credited with the home run, but the sub would be credited with the run scored.)

Of course, a preceding runner could also reverse direction, grab the injured runner, and drag her around the bases, being careful not to create a passed-runner situation or aggravate the injury. Supposedly something like this happened in professional baseball long ago, in a play involving a fatal heart attack.

Now if the preceding runner had scored, could she still legally return to drag the injured player around the bases?

[SC Ump]

Originally Posted by greymule

... a preceding runner ... drag her around the bases...

... long ago, in a play involving a fatal heart attack.

Is the runner required to touch (under their own power) all the bases or is it sufficient for the preceding runners to drag a lifeless body over the bases.

(Please remember me for stealing humor from Monty Python and not from Weekend at Bernie's.)

[Az.Ump]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Is a home run considered an awarded base?

12.3 Base Awards

12.3.5 Home plate. The batter is awarded home plate with no liability to be put
out:
12.3.5.1 When a fair batted fly ball strikes the foul pole above the fence level
or leaves the playing field in fair territory without being caught, touching
the ground or going through the fence even if the ball is deflected by a
fielder.

EFFECT (12.3.4.5.1 to 12.3.4.5.2)—The ball is dead. The batter-runner is
entitled to a home run, and each other base runner is awarded
home plate.

Not to tough.

Paul

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Az.Ump

12.3 Base Awards

12.3.5 Home plate. The batter is awarded home plate with no liability to be put
out:
12.3.5.1 When a fair batted fly ball strikes the foul pole above the fence level
or leaves the playing field in fair territory without being caught, touching
the ground or going through the fence even if the ball is deflected by a
fielder.

EFFECT (12.3.4.5.1 to 12.3.4.5.2)—The ball is dead. The batter-runner is
entitled to a home run, and each other base runner is awarded
home plate.

Not to tough.

Paul

OP was NCAA sitch; earlier post referenced ASA rules on injury and awarded bases.

ASA Rule that mirrors the NCAA rule quoted above is 8-5-H

H. When a fair batted fly ball strikes the foul pole above the fence level or leaves the playing field in fair territory without touching the ground or going through the fence.
EFFECT: The batter-runner shall be entitled to a home run, unless it passes out of the grounds at a distance less than the prescribed fence distances from home plate, in which case the batter-runner is entitled to two bases.

Are home runs the same as a 4 base award in the application of ASA rule 4-6-E?

[Dukat]

What about the FED or ASA rules as it applies to subbing an injured runner and if they can complete their running duties?

I see in Fed 8-9-4 where it states a courtesy runner may be used for an injured runner but I do not see where it says they can complete the running duties as the NCAA rule does in 8.5.3.2

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Dukat

What about the FED or ASA rules as it applies to subbing an injured runner and if they can complete their running duties?

I see in Fed 8-9-4 where it states a courtesy runner may be used for an injured runner but I do not see where it says they can complete the running duties as the NCAA rule does in 8.5.3.2

In ASA, my understanding is that they can be subbed out. Call time, get the proper medical attention FIRST (especially in kids' games), then have the coach sub 'em out and continue the baserunning.

Except ASA SP. Hit 'n' sit.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Is a home run considered an awarded base?

How else could a runner advance during a dead ball period?