9 player lineup with DP/FLEX

[youngump]

Sure, what's an EH besides a filler word in CA. An extra hitter? Batting 10 fielding 9? That's not exactly the idea of having a fielder who doesn't have to bat.
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[Stu Clary]

Originally Posted by youngump

Sure, what's an EH besides a filler word in CA. An extra hitter? Batting 10 fielding 9? That's not exactly the idea of having a fielder who doesn't have to bat.

OK. Good point. Then why not just use a DH, like in American League baseball?

[Stu Clary]

BTW...not sure what you mean by "filler word in CA". Please elaborate.

[Dakota]

I guess it was too much to expect any discussion about DP/FLEX to not turn into a general tutorial on the rule. The OP was focused on one issue: why not be able to have a starting lineup with one player listed in a dual role, with the other player to be entered later, like apparently SOME baseball codes do with DH?

Stu, if you want to debate the "goodness" of DP/FLEX, you could, you know, start a thread for that.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by jezgloa28

I am playing with the DP batting 4th/FLEX is my pitcher.

2nd inning, I put my DP into Right Field.

3rd inning, I place my original Right Fielder into Pitch.

As either my Flex or DP left the game?

Not enough information. Two different languages. If you are talking DP/FLEX, say DP/FLEX. Just because someone entered the game to pitch doesn't mean that either has left the game. For as much as we know from your statement, the FLEX could now be playing 1B or catching!

[jezgloa28]

I am talking DP/Flex

On my line-up card I show the DP batting 4th
The Flex in the 10th Slot playing the #1 Position (Pitcher)

In the 3rd inining I have my DP trot out to play the #9 position (Right Field), my original #9 player is on the bench.

In the 4th inning I have my original #9 position from the bench go to the #1 position (Pitcher). My Flex is now on the bench.

Has my Flex now left the game?

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I guess it was too much to expect any discussion about DP/FLEX to not turn into a general tutorial on the rule. The OP was focused on one issue: why not be able to have a starting lineup with one player listed in a dual role, with the other player to be entered later, like apparently SOME baseball codes do with DH?

Stu, if you want to debate the "goodness" of DP/FLEX, you could, you know, start a thread for that.

While I see what you are proposing, what I mentioned was with the rule written as is, (requiring a player/number in the DP slot on the line-up card, and a player/number in the FLEX slot) it wouldn't work. The rule would have to be reworded to allow one player to fulfill the dual role.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by jezgloa28

I am talking DP/Flex

On my line-up card I show the DP batting 4th
The Flex in the 10th Slot playing the #1 Position (Pitcher)

In the 3rd inining I have my DP trot out to play the #9 position (Right Field), my original #9 player is on the bench.

In the 4th inning I have my original #9 position from the bench go to the #1 position (Pitcher). My Flex is now on the bench.

Has my Flex now left the game?

yes

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by jezgloa28

I am talking DP/Flex

On my line-up card I show the DP batting 4th
The Flex in the 10th Slot playing the #1 Position (Pitcher)

In the 3rd inining I have my DP trot out to play the #9 position (Right Field), my original #9 player is on the bench.

In the 4th inning I have my original #9 position from the bench go to the #1 position (Pitcher). My Flex is now on the bench.

Has my Flex now left the game?

It is as simple as this. The FLEX is the player designed to play defense. The DP is the player designed to play offense for the FLEX. If either are not doing the duty they were designed for, they are now out of the game with one re-entry just like with any starting player in NCAA and any player in ASA/NFHS.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by Stu Clary

OK. Good point. Then why not just use a DH, like in American League baseball?

Canadians have a tendency to put eh into sentences the way that American's put like where neither belongs.
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[Stu Clary]

Originally Posted by youngump

Canadians have a tendency to put eh into sentences the way that American's put like where neither belongs.

OH! CA = Canada! I get it now. Being that I'm from California, I read CA as Cali.

Eh?

[Stu Clary]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I guess it was too much to expect any discussion about DP/FLEX to not turn into a general tutorial on the rule. The OP was focused on one issue: why not be able to have a starting lineup with one player listed in a dual role, with the other player to be entered later, like apparently SOME baseball codes do with DH?

Stu, if you want to debate the "goodness" of DP/FLEX, you could, you know, start a thread for that.

Thank you. That's a very helpful suggestion. Heaven forbid any threads veer slightly off topic around here.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Stu Clary

Thank you. That's a very helpful suggestion. Heaven forbid any threads veer slightly off topic around here.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

While I admire your thinking outside the box, the rule requires the name/number of the player for DP and the name/number of the FLEX to be recorded on the line up in the appropriate spots.

To do what you are saying would require one player to be listed in two different positions on the line-up card. (At least according to NCAA, NFHS, and ASA.)

But he is asking about changing the rule.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I don't pay any attention to the details of ... rules, beyond being a fan, that is. (I know, Mike... but I do like ..., in spite of the overpaid spoiled AAs, the steriods, etc.) I said that to say this: I was reading a thread on the ... board, and apparently some ... codes allow a 9 player lineup where one player is indicates as both F1 and DH. The apparent advantage of this is if the starting pitcher is a good hitter, the coach can bring in a relief pitcher later in the game and the starting F1 becomes DH for the relief pitcher.

In softball with the DP/FLEX, if a coach wants to do something similar, he specifies his "starting" F1 as DP and his relief F1 as starting F1 and FLEX, and then in the defensive half of the 1st inning, he brings in his DP to play defense for FLEX (that is, to "start" at pitcher), dropping back to 9 players in the lineup. The disadvantage of this is that the relief pitcher has officially left the game, with one re-entry remaining, rather than being an unused sub.

Has there ever been any discussion about allowing a starting lineup to show DP/FLEX as a dual role for one player in a 9 player lineup? This would mean the coach has stated his intent to play with DP/FLEX, but he has yet to name the "other" player.

You really want to start messing with a rule that less than half have learned so far and that is consistent and clear between books?

I seem to remember that you have some games soon. Does that mean your cabin fever will clear up in the foreseeable future?