Are bobbie-pins jewelry?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Monty Python

I'm helping coach a U12 girls team. Are the rubber/plastic wrist bands so many of the kids wear considered jewelry?

Thanks

No

[Dholloway1962]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

No

rule reference? I have always been told by every UIC they are considered jewelry, unless medical.

[ronald]

In Maryland, per NFHS rules interpreter, those lance armstrong type wristbands are not permitted. Remove em and warning, etc....

Ron

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by ronald

In Maryland, per NFHS rules interpreter, those lance armstrong type wristbands are not permitted. Remove em and warning, etc....

Ron

The last time I checked, NFHS did not have a U12 division.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

The last time I checked, NFHS did not have a U12 division.

DING!!!....DING!!!....DING!!!

[wadeintothem]

Those things sure can be hard to see and they sure are easy to miss....

Thats my experience anyway.

[ronald]

Ding! Ding! Ding!

What purpose does that serve?

I consider myself an ASA umpire first and if that comment carries a negative connotation (as some might think so), that is not befitting a state ASA UIC. (pg 170, pt 6)


Ron

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dholloway1962

rule reference? I have always been told by every UIC they are considered jewelry, unless medical.

No, you give me a rules reference that specifically states those items are jewelry.

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

No, you give me a rules reference that specifically states those items are jewelry.

Are you serious?

[JEL]

Originally Posted by TwoBits

Are you serious?

Webster; Jewelry; personal ornaments made of precious or base metals, and precious or imitation stones.


NFHS; Jewelry; (such as) rings, watches, earrings, bracelets, necklaces (including cloth or string types), barrettes or other hard cosmetics or decorative items. -----Livestrong MAY be a decorative item, but it's not hard.


ASA; Jewelry; (use common sense) If deemed dangerous (to other players inferred) must be removed.


I understand the NFHS "hard line stand", and will enforce, but ASA (and others) is much more game friendly.

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by JEL

Webster; Jewelry; personal ornaments made of precious or base metals, and precious or imitation stones.


NFHS; Jewelry; (such as) rings, watches, earrings, bracelets, necklaces (including cloth or string types), barrettes or other hard cosmetics or decorative items. -----Livestrong MAY be a decorative item, but it's not hard.


ASA; Jewelry; (use common sense) If deemed dangerous (to other players inferred) must be removed.


I understand the NFHS "hard line stand", and will enforce, but ASA (and others) is much more game friendly.

Speaking NFHS...

Aren't these things bracelets?

[JEL]

Originally Posted by TwoBits

Speaking NFHS...

Aren't these things bracelets?

Could be, but they don't really follow Mr Websters definition of "jewelry" do they? For that matter, neither do cloth or string thingies!

Bottom line, We are discussing two seperate and distinct orginizations, ASA and NFHS. One says remove it, and is interpreted as no leeway, one says use common sense.

If you are calling a 12U ASA game, and deem the Livestrong bands as dangerous, then have them removed. If you are calling NFHS, it doesn't matter what you think, have them removed.

[Stu Clary]

re: Livestong

Originally Posted by TwoBits

Speaking NFHS...

Aren't these things bracelets?

I had a girl remove one yesterday. She apologised and said that she forgot to take it off before the game - in other words, they already know it's consider jewlery, at least around here.

[DaveASA/FED]

I think one thing to remember is that the 2nd question was posted as a u12 team. They did not say what rule set, several leagues use NFHS rules so I fail to see why some are disregarding this rules information, it might be the only that fits this discussion.

I see Irishs point for ASA, although I think the better more informative answer would be in ASA it is umpires judgement if they feel it is dangerous it must be removed.

Lance Armstrong braclets were adressed at the NUS this year and it was said to have them removed. NFHS had the same stance. So I am having them removed if they want to play.

[SRW]

Originally Posted by DaveASA/FED

Lance Armstrong braclets were adressed at the NUS this year and it was said to have them removed.

Do you have anything written to back that up?