Dropped 3rd Strike

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by ronald

Thanks guys. If I had a printer, I would print the info. I do not want to take notes but do not have much of a choice.

Wadeintothem or others,

Could you discuss how you view the ideas of an "opportunity to make an out" versus an "attempt by a defensive player to retire an offensive player" (play).

Is ASA using different words to mean the same thing?

What is ASA getting at when they say attempt to retire? Does the organization want a narrow reading of attempt or one of in theory which gives a much broader reading.

I remember you guys discussing this terminology before, so if there is a link you can direct me to, go ahead.

I interpret it to be the spirit of the rule.. a tightening down on the protection afforded a defensive player on a deflected ball as opposed to an initial play.

R1@2b grounder to F6
F6 muffs it initially, but is still within a reach of the ball and is reaching out to grab the ball and throw to retire the BR when R1 runs by, contacting the fielders arm.

DB Out.


This IMO, is example of Obstruction on a deflected ball and not INT... and is the difference in the wording.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NGIZ_xhePo

Since I think its pretty obvious that without the contact, there was no possibility of an out. I think ASA's wording makes the call very clear whereas BB umpires debate this play a lot.