Batter runner moves toward home

[Scooby]

Originally Posted by Steve M

Not necessarily.

In ASA and Fed, the runners are returned to the base occupied at the time of the interference - this move is considered interference. In NCAA, the runners are returned to the base occupied at the time of the pitch. It is entirely possible and likely that both of your runners had obtained the advance base prior to the batter-runner stepping backward toward home - since they are likely breaking on the pitch.

Yes, there is a techincal difference, but I have never had a baserunner advance to the next base prior to the infraction.

[argodad]

Originally Posted by Scooby

Yes, there is a techincal difference, but I have never had a baserunner advance to the next base prior to the infraction.

I have. Bunt-and-run. Runner was clearly around 2B before the BR retreated. Would have been ruled differently had it been a college game.

[greymule]

The NCAA version of this reminds me of a play (originally an OBR discussion) I posed to my NCAA/ECAC softball group (and nobody is certain of the answer). But I'd like to propose a variation with BR stepping backward toward home:

NCAA softball:

Abel on 3B, 1 out. On a suicide squeeze, Baker bunts the ball on one hop to F1, who throws home too late to get the sliding Abel. F2 now throws to F3, who had charged the bunt and is now on the 1B line 15 feet from the bag. When F3 attempts to tag Baker, Baker retreats toward home to delay/avoid the tag.

Baker is out. But the question is, Do you now send Abel back to 3B?

Of course, under ASA and Fed rules, the run scores since the "interference" came afterward. The book rule in NCAA would be to send Abel back to 3B. However, that's also the book rule in OBR, but Abel's run does score.

Note: The original play involved the BR being called out for running lane interference. Unlike ASA (and I guess Fed), NCAA (and OBR) return runners TOP of the BR commits interference before reaching 1B.

[JPRempe]

Originally Posted by greymule

The NCAA version of this reminds me of a play (originally an OBR discussion) I posed to my NCAA/ECAC softball group (and nobody is certain of the answer). But I'd like to propose a variation with BR stepping backward toward home:

NCAA softball:

Abel on 3B, 1 out. On a suicide squeeze, Baker bunts the ball on one hop to F1, who throws home too late to get the sliding Abel. F2 now throws to F3, who had charged the bunt and is now on the 1B line 15 feet from the bag. When F3 attempts to tag Baker, Baker retreats toward home to delay/avoid the tag.

Baker is out. But the question is, Do you now send Abel back to 3B?

Of course, under ASA and Fed rules, the run scores since the "interference" came afterward. The book rule in NCAA would be to send Abel back to 3B. However, that's also the book rule in OBR, but Abel's run does score.

Note: The original play involved the BR being called out for running lane interference. Unlike ASA (and I guess Fed), NCAA (and OBR) return runners TOP of the BR commits interference before reaching 1B.

I assume you mean Alpha and Bravo...

[Steve M]

Originally Posted by Scooby

Yes, there is a techincal difference, but I have never had a baserunner advance to the next base prior to the infraction.

You must have had some slow runners, Scooby. With runners off with the pitch, they'd almost have to be at their next base by the time the B-R stepped back. I've seen this in ASA and in college.