Foul tip?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

..or hand.

which is what the scenario offered.

[Dutch Alex]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

which is what the scenario offered.

It can't be direct into the hand if it was lodged into the protector (as the scenario offered...).

[greymule]

It can't be direct into the hand

But it can be direct to the hand, and that's the word the rule book uses. Every code I know is the same as far as that part of the foul tip rule is concerned. Any differences usually lie in whether a defensive player other than F2 can catch a foul tip. What I'm trying to find out is whether straight from the bat to the hand/glove and then into uniform or equipment is still a foul tip, and whether various codes differ on this aspect of the rule.

[greymule]

I spoke too soon about "every code I know." The NCAA rule [A.R. 11-6] is almost unbelievable in its ambiguity:

"A ball travels directly from the bat, in a straight line, to the glove or bare hand and is deflected straight up into the air. If the catcher then legally catches the ball without moving her feet forward or sideways, it is a foul tip. If it is not caught by the catcher or the rebound is off a body part other than the catcher's glove or bare hand, it is a foul ball, not a foul tip."

So the catcher cannot move her feet (plural? how about one foot?) sideways or forward and still catch a foul tip.

1. Nicked ball goes straight to the glove and pops a few inches out to the side. F2 moves her right foot to the side and catches the ball. Foul ball, I guess. Or maybe moving one foot is OK.

2. Does "rebound off a body part other than the catcher's glove (that's a body part?) or bare hand" mean the first rebound? How about bat to glove to chest to hand?

3. Not long ago somebody asked whether a foul tip could be caught in fair territory. In NCAA softball, only if the catcher doesn't move her feet forward or to the side.

4. How about bat to glove to chest protector to hand if the catcher moved both feet before making the catch?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dutch Alex

It can't be direct into the hand if it was lodged into the protector (as the scenario offered...).

That would be true if that is what the rule stated, but it doesn't.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

which is what the scenario offered.

which was my point.