What do you do when... (ASA SP Mechanics)

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

2-umpire system, and your BU is still sitting his happy butt over in B. Trailing runner is heading for 3B, and you see there's gonna be a tight tag play. I see this a lot with rec-league umpires.

Let him fry? Or you make the call?

And yes, for the record, I have been BU and brain farted on this very play. Fortunately, I had a good PU with me, and the calls were made without anyone noticing I'd screwed up (except my PU, of course).

Hey, I'll admit it.

What is to be gained by "frying" your partner except to put you both in the "pan" for the rest of the game?

Just make sure he understands his mistake so it won't happen again.

[SRW]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

What is to be gained by "frying" your partner except to put you both in the "pan" for the rest of the game?

Just make sure he understands his mistake so it won't happen again.

Holy $h!t, for once I agree with you.

[NCASAUmp]

I agree, and in that situation, I'm often in the holding zone when possible (assuming there was no immediate play at HP). If my partner doesn't look like he's going to make a call, I'll get in there and do it the wrong way.

However, it's my understanding that both of you could get dinged in your review for PU making that call at 3B. The important thing is to get it right, of course, but I'll be damned if I'll get dinged for something my partner failed to do (not that my last review was worth a darn anyway - a 3 for hustle? I'm the fastest ump on our crew! BS!).

Any UICs care to comment on that kind of situation? How would you grade if you saw that?

[azbigdawg]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

I agree, and in that situation, I'm often in the holding zone when possible (assuming there was no immediate play at HP). If my partner doesn't look like he's going to make a call, I'll get in there and do it the wrong way.

However, it's my understanding that both of you could get dinged in your review for PU making that call at 3B. The important thing is to get it right, of course, but I'll be damned if I'll get dinged for something my partner failed to do (not that my last review was worth a darn anyway - a 3 for hustle? I'm the fastest ump on our crew! BS!).

Any UICs care to comment on that kind of situation? How would you grade if you saw that?

As bad as it sounds....both of you get the *** chewing.... the BU for NOT making the call..and the PU for making it.... Ive seen (more than once)...the plate ump think the BU is not going to make that call (from across the diamond), only to have a "safe"/"out"..and the resulting UIC heart attack that follows...

If youre going to go get it...say "I've got three"..If you're lucky..your partner wont make a call also, and you can hammer it out between innings....