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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 09:55am
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Last night in the local beer league, ASA rules, bottom of the last inning. The home team hits a home run to win the game. Batter carries the bat past 1B before tossing it to 1B coach. Visitors go ballistic "he's out carrying the bat" rule.
In my little pea brain pops a thread on here saying it was legal. So I stick to my memory of that thread. I can't seem to find the thread this morning.

Please tell me I got this right . I said no out game over. They did the protest thing and the "UIC"/ Park Director went with my decision......
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 09:57am
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Last night in the local beer league, ASA rules, bottom of the last inning. The home team hits a home run to win the game. Batter carries the bat past 1B before tossing it to 1B coach. Visitors go ballistic "he's out carrying the bat" rule.
In my little pea brain pops a thread on here saying it was legal. So I stick to my memory of that thread. I can't seem to find the thread this morning.

Please tell me I got this right . I said no out game over. They did the protest thing and the "UIC"/ Park Director went with my decision......
I've never seen anything in the rule book that says they have to drop the bat anywhere in particular. As long as they're not taking swings at other players, I'd say they've got nothing. Touch 'em all, game over. Anyone else?
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 09:59am
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If I remember correctly, that is a U-trip rule.
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 10:13am
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Read ASA Rules Supplement 52.
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 11:04am
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MN Blue is correct (well, at least for slow-pitch)
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8.4 (g) states that the batter runner cannot touch 1b with the bat if the ball is live.

However, I do not believe there is a corresponding rule for fast pitch, although I am not an umpire...
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 11:07am
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Read ASA Rules Supplement 52.
Thanks SRW......just what I was looking for.....
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 11:07am
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Read ASA Rules Supplement 52.
For those of us at work, care to share what you found?
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 11:15am
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MN Blue is correct (well, at least for slow-pitch)
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8.4 (g) states that the batter runner cannot touch 1b with the bat if the ball is live...
OK, but he touched it with his foot.
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 11:16am
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For those of us at work, care to share what you found?
Last paragraph of RS52:
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There is no penalty when a player carries a bat to first base or any other base. Should the player use the bat to prevent a defensive player from making a play, then interference should be ruled.
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 11:42am
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If I remember correctly, that is a U-trip rule.

Also NSA, unless they changed their rule recently.
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 11:48am
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If I remember correctly, that is a U-trip rule.

Also NSA, unless they changed their rule recently.
As mook11 said, slow pitch only!

Interesting Q for the literal of us:
" batter runner cannot touch 1b with the bat if the ball is live...

OK, but he touched it with his foot. "
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 12:01pm
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For those of us at work, care to share what you found?
You don't keep a rule book at work?
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 12:10pm
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You don't keep a rule book at work?
Yeah, NC, whatsamatta witcha? I have 3 - last year's book, this year's book and this year's book as a PDF document!
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 03:41pm
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You don't keep a rule book at work?
Until the rule book contains something about rebuilding Mac servers or imaging Mac workstations and integrating them with Active Directory, I'm gonna leave it at home.
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 03:55pm
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MN Blue is correct (well, at least for slow-pitch)
USSSA
8.4 (g) states that the batter runner cannot touch 1b with the bat if the ball is live.

However, I do not believe there is a corresponding rule for fast pitch, although I am not an umpire...


If the batted ball has cleared the outfield fence, is not the ball now a dead ball and the batter is awarded four bases because a fair ball went into dead ball territory on the fly. Therefore, if the ball became dead before the batter touched first base, the batter is not out.

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