Yet another manager meltdown

[NCASAUmp]

Another coach flips out and goes berzerk on the field.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hUcFWPgB8oY

I don't think the plate he drew is regulation...

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Another coach flips out and goes berzerk on the field.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hUcFWPgB8oY

I don't think the plate he drew is regulation...

Yeah, saw that about a dozen times or so last night on ESPN.

I know it will not happen, but in my mind the ONLY way baseball, at any professional level, is going to stop the brawls, fights and idiotic antics like this "adult" is for the umpires to display the integrity they claim by declaring a forfeit and leaving the field.

This would do two things. Force the issue of how serious the ownership is as it concern putting on a ball game or a circus, and show the umpires how much support they have from their union reps. The only time it would be even questionable is when it is just the individual idiot. On the fights, it is easy as you dump everyone who leaves the dugout or their playing position to take part in a fracas.

History shows that umpires will most like take it in the shorts if they actually do their job properly.

[NCASAUmp]

Very true, Mike. I ranted about "professional athletes" on another section of my website, and it's cases like these that just prove my point. I agree that situations like these should result in a forfeit, but sadly, that will never happen. The owners will complain that the fans, who paid good money to see a game, will be penalized for one person's behavior.

Boo. Friggin'. Hoo.

Perhaps the fines and penalties should be increased for those who engage in this kind of behavior. If they fight, they're gone for 90 games and loss all pay for that time. If they get tossed, minimum 5 game suspension and loss of pay. Toughen up, MLB!

On a related note, Lou Piniella was suspended for only one game for getting tossed after kicking dirt onto an ump's shoes (and possibly kicking his shin as wel). After getting tossed, he admitted that he knew that he was wrong, and he was only trying to find the right time to get fired up over a call.

These meltdowns and tirades have got to stop. We shouldn't have to take someone else's BS simply because they have no other way to get their team fired up. Getting tossed out of a game, to me, is a serious matter, but as such, I use ejections as a last resort whenever possible.

The worst part about the video was the fact that some fans seemed to be cheering him on.

[MJT]

On a lighter note, that was pretty creative stuff crawling up on the rosin bag and throwing it at the home plate ump like a grenade. You have to figure he will be suspended for some time for that one!

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by MJT

On a lighter note, that was pretty creative stuff crawling up on the rosin bag and throwing it at the home plate ump like a grenade. You have to figure he will be suspended for some time for that one!

Definitely! He must have been in the military to toss that rosin bag right at the feet of the umpire.

[IamMatt]

I don't care what his jersey says, he is obviously not a Well Man!

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Very true, Mike. I ranted about "professional athletes" on another section of my website, and it's cases like these that just prove my point. I agree that situations like these should result in a forfeit, but sadly, that will never happen. The owners will complain that the fans, who paid good money to see a game, will be penalized for one person's behavior.

Boo. Friggin'. Hoo.

That's the point. You know one of those fans is going to be a lawyer and bring action to recoup their money. If the owners have to start handing some of the money back to the fans, you will see a different demeaner from ownership around the league, including tighter management of the player's on-field activities.

That means bigger, heftier fines out of the manager's and player's paycheck. Maybe then these morons on the field will realize they are adult that are only playing a game of the children's, not acting like them

[NCASAUmp]

That's why my response is always the same when asked, "what level do you umpire?"

"Supposedly adults."

It takes them a moment to realize what I'm saying, but they usually get a kick out of it.

I frankly have little sympathy for "professional athletes" and their coaches. They're paid outrageous salaries (more than I make in 6 years' time), have most of the year off, go on strike every 5-10 years, and whine constantly. And they're playing a game! A GAME!

Isn't it odd how in baseball, if a player fails 70% of the time at bat, he's considered good?

My thoughts? Fire 'em all. Bring up the kids who really want to play their hearts out. Drop the obscene ticket prices down to $10 again so a family of four can watch a sport that's played with some dignity without having to pay the price of a cheap car.

[Dakota]

Geez-ol-petes, you guys certainly seem to have public entertainment confused with sports...

Just as NCAA Div 1 umpires are not going to call an IP for leaping, neither are the MLB umpires going to declare a forfeit for USC by the manager (or nealy anyone else short of a complete out-of-control melee involving the crowd).

Managers getting in the face of umpires is part of the MLB show, nothing more.

For a bit of historical perspective, check Managers, umpires have throwback week

The unfortunate part is too many amateur players and their coaches (and fans) seem to think that behavior should be copied. And, you do occasionally have the truely insane managers in professional baseball who also lose sight of the fact that it is a show.