Rundown and OBS

[bkbjones]

I agree with the rule 100%. ASA doesn't just make up willy-nilly rules for some bad reason. And, ASA has been known to change a rule, or a rule interpretation, during the season. As Ed said, we are out there to enforce the rules, not agree with them.

If you think that one doesn't make sense, think of the NCAA enforcement of obstruction. The first offense, the offenders name is listed in the official book. Second offense, the situation changes, including the awarding of a base beyond blah blah blah.

If you think a rule needs to be changed, there is a mechanism for your input. Your ASA UIC should be able to guide you to that; if not, ask on here or send someone a private message and we can tell you how. Otherwise, just enforce the rule.

And please, don't ask for dialogue unless you want dialogue. Mike wasn't trying to start a flame war. Mike was just being Mike. Some of us are VERY outspoken about certain plays or rules or other things, including unfounded allegations about starting flame wars. We often have very spirited debates about many things, and you will find some of us appear to be all chummy and buddy buddy about some things, walking in lockstep with one another -- and then look like we are ready to cut a throat of one of those buddies.

Why do we do that? Well, most of the veterans on this board will do almost anything to right a wrong, correct a mistake, uphold what is right, etc. etc. We are passionate about this avocation and get pissed off when someone tries to bring us down. We are all only as good as the worst umpire...and many of us are going to try our damnedest to raise that lowest common denominator. (I'd say die trying, but then I might get my card punched for good )

so jump on in. Bring your flip flops and sunscreen...oh, and keep a pair of asbestos shorts near by, because if you f' up we are going to roast your butt.

[NCASAUmp]

Heheh... Well, anyone want some rump roast? Party at my place.

Discussion is always good, and I do enjoy a good spirited debate. Was just a little taken aback at Mike's response.

I have some other things I need to attend to now. VT hit a little too close to home today.

[bkbjones]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Heheh... Well, anyone want some rump roast? Party at my place.
Discussion is always good, and I do enjoy a good spirited debate. Was just a little taken aback at Mike's response.
I have some other things I need to attend to now. VT hit a little too close to home today.

Yes, it did. Even over here, as I had known one of the kids who was shot (is in the hospital) since, well, forever for him.

Plus we had something similar over here very recently. Not nearly as devastating, but still...

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by bkbjones

Yes, it did. Even over here, as I had known one of the kids who was shot (is in the hospital) since, well, forever for him.

Plus we had something similar over here very recently. Not nearly as devastating, but still...

Yeah... I knew the German instructor who was shot in the head. I worked with him for over 3.5 years before he moved to VT...

[jimpiano]

I had trouble with this rule, too.

But I viewed it as a player in a rundown obviously being able to advance to the next base on an overthrow. In the case of obstruction that advance would be hindered, even if he was returning to the previous base.