The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Softball

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 03, 2006, 08:10am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 122
bases full, dropped 3rd. strike

Girl's fast pitch
Bases full and a dropped 3rd. strike. Must the play be made on the batter-runner going to first, or can the catcher just touch home for the force-out?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 03, 2006, 08:28am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Northeastern NC
Posts: 487
The out anywhere counts - just touch home
__________________
TCBLUE13
NFHS, PONY, Babe Ruth, LL, NSA

Softball in the Bible
"In the big-inning"

Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 03, 2006, 09:49am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 1,640
When a batter becomes a batter-runner due to an uncaught third strike, the exact same conditions apply as if the batter became a batter-runner due to hitting a fair ground ball.

With the bases full, you have a force out at any base (I know, I know...technically not at first), or you can tag any runner with the ball.

Stepping on home is a good option!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 03, 2006, 09:59am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Sierra Nevada Mtns
Posts: 3,220
with 2 outs of course...
__________________
ASA, NCAA, NFHS
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 03, 2006, 10:01am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Little Elm, TX (NW Dallas)
Posts: 4,047
No one ever mentions that there were 2 outs. I'm adding this in case someone new to the profession misunderstands the original post.

If there were not 2 outs in the original scenario, then the batter is immediately out. Runners could advance at their own risk, and would have to be tagged - there is no force as the batter is already out.
__________________
"Many baseball fans look upon an umpire as a sort of necessary evil to the luxury of baseball, like the odor that follows an automobile." - Hall of Fame Pitcher Christy Mathewson
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 03, 2006, 10:02am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Little Elm, TX (NW Dallas)
Posts: 4,047
Quote:
Originally Posted by wadeintothem
with 2 outs of course...
Beat me by THAT much!
__________________
"Many baseball fans look upon an umpire as a sort of necessary evil to the luxury of baseball, like the odor that follows an automobile." - Hall of Fame Pitcher Christy Mathewson
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 03, 2006, 10:05am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcrowder
Beat me by THAT much!
Two minutes is tttthhhhhhaaaaaatttttt much!
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 03, 2006, 10:55am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Sierra Nevada Mtns
Posts: 3,220
Quote:
Originally Posted by CecilOne
Two minutes is tttthhhhhhaaaaaatttttt much!
yeah but he typed way more than me and probably spell checked it and grammer checked it and ensured that every word typed would pass the "nitpick test", etc.. so in reality, he probably beat me.
__________________
ASA, NCAA, NFHS
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 03, 2006, 10:56am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Twin Cities MN
Posts: 8,154
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcrowder
Beat me by THAT much!
RIP, Maxwell Smart.
__________________
Tom
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 03, 2006, 02:59pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 1,640
"with 2 outs of course..."

Of course! That is why I worded my response as, "When a batter becomes a batter-runner...".

By definition, that can only happen on the described play when there are...two outs!

Nevertheless, a distinction worth noting for those that may not be familiar with the intricacies of the third strike rule, which I suspect most of us here are while the original poster possibly is not.

Sorry about that, Chief!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 03, 2006, 05:43pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Northeastern NC
Posts: 487
Quote:
Originally Posted by wadeintothem
with 2 outs of course...
I'm the clod who just assumed 2 outs I'm glad you guys were theere to make the explanation more clear. BTW if the batter runs with less thgan 2 outs, it is NOT interference. (trying to keep the thread from being hijacked)
__________________
TCBLUE13
NFHS, PONY, Babe Ruth, LL, NSA

Softball in the Bible
"In the big-inning"

Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Fri Nov 03, 2006, 08:50pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Sierra Nevada Mtns
Posts: 3,220
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcblue13
I'm the clod who just assumed 2 outs I'm glad you guys were theere to make the explanation more clear. BTW if the batter runs with less thgan 2 outs, it is NOT interference. (trying to keep the thread from being hijacked)
Why?

Its over.. nothing else to be said.

Hows the weather where you are?

Do you shine your plate shoes and clean your gear before you put them away for the winter, or do you clean it just before the season starts?
__________________
ASA, NCAA, NFHS
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dropped 3rd strike? achyfuzzball Softball 8 Sat Jul 10, 2004 09:49am
Dropped third strike...and then some! Spookyant Baseball 16 Sat Jun 26, 2004 10:26am
Third Dropped Strike Stair-Climber Softball 9 Wed Jun 23, 2004 08:26pm
dropped third strike blscots6 Baseball 19 Wed Sep 18, 2002 07:00pm
bases loaded dropped third strike zebraman55 Softball 2 Fri Jun 08, 2001 12:49pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:34am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1