Think I missed One - Obstruction at 1B

[NDblue]

What the heck was 2B doing over there anyways? Sounds like a coaching error to me. I personally can't think of an instance where the second baseman (person) would be that close to 1B to cover the bag.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NDblue

What the heck was 2B doing over there anyways? Sounds like a coaching error to me. I personally can't think of an instance where the second baseman (person) would be that close to 1B to cover the bag.

That is, or was, a standard mechanic on a ball to F3.

[NDblue]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

That is, or was, a standard mechanic on a ball to F3.

What planet are you on? F4 covering 1B on a play in the infield? Don't think so, that's F1's job. Even a pop into shallow right field, F1 should be covering 1B if F3 is fielding the ball.

I apologize for hijacking this thread.

[tcannizzo]

Originally Posted by NDblue

What planet are you on? F4 covering 1B on a play in the infield? Don't think so, that's F1's job. Even a pop into shallow right field, F1 should be covering 1B if F3 is fielding the ball.

I apologize for hijacking this thread.

I'll take you on here. F4 is absolutley the player to cover 1B. Starts with standard bunt coverage and builds from there.

F1 is at least 42 feet away from 1B (half the distance of the 84 feet between 1B and 3B) and has been taught to assume a fielding position after finishing the delivery.

F4's job on a ground ball to F3 is to back up the play in case it gets by F3 and then on to 1B to cover.

Standard positioning of F4 is about 30 feet from 1B, and while F1 is stationary, F4 is moving towards the ball on contact. This puts F4 at least 20 feet closer to 1B than F1.

There is no way in softball for F1 to get to 1B ahead of F4. I'll bet you a steak dinner on this and I like eating steak on other people's money.

The only catch is that the steak must come from planet Earth.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by tcannizzo

I'll take you on here. F4 is absolutley the player to cover 1B. Starts with standard bunt coverage and builds from there.

F1 is at least 42 feet away from 1B (half the distance of the 84 feet between 1B and 3B) and has been taught to assume a fielding position after finishing the delivery.

F4's job on a ground ball to F3 is to back up the play in case it gets by F3 and then on to 1B to cover.

Standard positioning of F4 is about 30 feet from 1B, and while F1 is stationary, F4 is moving towards the ball on contact. This puts F4 at least 20 feet closer to 1B than F1.

There is no way in softball for F1 to get to 1B ahead of F4. I'll bet you a steak dinner on this and I like eating steak on other people's money.

The only catch is that the steak must come from planet Earth.

Every high level game of FP I have ever seen or been a part of, this is exactly how the coverage is handled.

[booker227]

two things must happen for obstruction:
fielder doesn't have ball
runner hindered by fielder without ball
you have obstruction here

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by booker227

two things must happen for obstruction:
fielder doesn't have ball
runner hindered by fielder without ball
you have obstruction here

Better wording; Fielder blocks the runner's path while not in possession of the ball, and the runner does something as a result such as alters her path, slides early, or any other thing that the umpire felt she would not have done had the fielder not been blocking her path.

[JefferMC]

To resume the thread hijack...

My daughter had a first year coach in rec this year. He tried to tell her that as F1 she should be covering 1B when F3 comes off the bag. She and I both looked at him like he had two heads.

Yes, in fast pitch softball at least, of course F4 covers 1B when F3 comes off of it, bunt or normal.

[Steve M]

Originally Posted by NDblue

What planet are you on? F4 covering 1B on a play in the infield? Don't think so, that's F1's job. Even a pop into shallow right field, F1 should be covering 1B if F3 is fielding the ball.

I apologize for hijacking this thread.

Think you'd better rethink that, Tom. F4 covering 1B is the norm in the games I've seen.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NDblue

What planet are you on? F4 covering 1B on a play in the infield? Don't think so, that's F1's job. Even a pop into shallow right field, F1 should be covering 1B if F3 is fielding the ball.

I apologize for hijacking this thread.

Apparently, the same planet most posters, except you, are on. I'm surprised that with as much softball that is played in ND that you even raised this issue.

Even when playing the SP game at 2B, I would always be heading toward 1B for a possible play on any ground ball to my left.

BTW, where I'm from, the SS always, ALWAYS takes the throw from the pitcher at 2B unless in a very drastic shift taking them into the outfield area.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Apparently, the same planet most posters, except you, are on. I'm surprised that with as much softball that is played in ND that you even raised this issue.

Even when playing the SP game at 2B, I would always be heading toward 1B for a possible play on any ground ball to my left.

BTW, where I'm from, the SS always, ALWAYS takes the throw from the pitcher at 2B unless in a very drastic shift taking them into the outfield area.

I'm thinking a littleball guy slithered in here.