Ejection during a Home Run

[greymule]

I had a team that was full of jerks....every call was questioned.

What? In men's slow pitch? Incredible!

I believe that in ASA (unlike OBR), the perpetrator is immediately out and all other runners return to their bases. This is a fairly recent ASA ruling.

And yes, as soon as the moron kicked dirt on the plate, he's gone.

A few days ago, I saw a SP batter turn to the PU and declare, "You stink, you f*****g bum!" After the natural consequence of this act, a substitute batter entered the box and assumed the count. A little later, I remembered the ASA ruling and figured that the batter, besides being ejected, should have been called out. No substitute batter.

[Dakota]

The ASA ruling which is being referred to here is Case Play 10.8-1 (2004), where a BR throws a bat in anger thinking his fly ball was not a HR, but the ball does clear the fence. The ruling was dead ball, BR ejected and called out for flagrant misconduct (their words: "flagrant misconduct."). HR does not score. Runners return.

[umpharp]

I did wait too long. My plans were to toss him once he finshed running the bases, however when he gave me the finger, I ejected him before he made it to second.
I did not allow the run to score. Again, I wasn't sure if that was the right call and from the sound of things, i'm not sure it was legal to eject him during his running of the bases.....but that is what I did.
I explained to the team that the run didn't score because he never completed running the bases. Even though the team had complained the entire game....they knew the player should have been ejected and did not dispute this ruling....of course three batters later thre was a diving catch in the outfield that sent them into another frenzy but thats beside the point.

[umpharp]

According to the case play Dakota mentions...is the ruling correct not to allow the run?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by umpharp

According to the case play Dakota mentions...is the ruling correct not to allow the run?

You at least have an official ruling to back up your call. I guess it depends on what is meant by "flagrant misconduct."

[greymule]

I guess it depends on what is meant by "flagrant misconduct."

There's another good point. Is there a difference in how these plays should be ruled?:

Play 1:

BR thinks his fly ball will be caught and viciously flings his bat in anger, shattering the opponents' water cooler. Then as he passes 1B he utters a racial slur and kicks F3. Umpire ejects BR. The ball goes over the fence.

Play 2:

BR thinks his fly ball will be caught and says, for the third time that game, "Ump, you took the bat right out of my hands." Umpire ejects BR. The ball goes over the fence.

I have assumed that any ejection would practically by definition involve flagrant misconduct, but maybe routine ejections don't qualify.

[CecilOne]

greymule"Ump, you took the bat right out of my hands."

To which you say "you must not know how to hold a bat"