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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 11:56am
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Illegal Pitch??

This situation happened to me last night in a U-18, ASA rules last night.
R1 on 3d Base, home team at bat in a 5-5 tie game bottom of the 10th inning, -0- outs.

Batter has a count of 1-1. Pitcher starts her windup and has separated her hands to begin the pitch. As soon as she has separated her hands the batter takes two steps out of the batter's box and requests time. I say nothing.
The pitcher stops.

The 3d base coach throws his hands up, shouts illegal pitch and announces we win, game over and congratulates the batter for "a good move"

What's the call?
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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 11:58am
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This situation happened to me last night in a U-18, ASA rules last night.
R1 on 3d Base, home team at bat in a 5-5 tie game bottom of the 10th inning, -0- outs.

Batter has a count of 1-1. Pitcher starts her windup and has separated her hands to begin the pitch. As soon as she has separated her hands the batter takes two steps out of the batter's box and requests time. I say nothing.
The pitcher stops.

The 3d base coach throws his hands up, shouts illegal pitch and announces we win, game over and congratulates the batter for "a good move"

What's the call?
No pitch....reset and do over.
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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 12:17pm
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No pitch....reset and do over.
Yep. Rule 6, section 10E.
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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 12:26pm
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JamesV, what was called?
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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 12:27pm
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Clearly coached; not only "no pitch", but I would certainly warn both coach and player that this tactic will result in an ejection if used again.
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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 12:31pm
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I called a "no-pitch" and warned the coach that a repeat of this action would result in a ejection.
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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 12:38pm
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I called a "no-pitch" and warned the coach that a repeat of this action would result in a ejection.
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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 12:38pm
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I called a "no-pitch" and warned the coach that a repeat of this action would result in a ejection.
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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 02:19pm
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I called a "no-pitch" and warned the coach that a repeat of this action would result in a ejection.
Jim

And his reply?
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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 05:04pm
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Due to the obvious of attempt to draw the IP couldn't you also call a strike on the batter for stepping out of the box while the pitcher is in motion.

Sorry don't have my book with me to look it up.
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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 06:45pm
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Due to the obvious of attempt to draw the IP couldn't you also call a strike on the batter for stepping out of the box while the pitcher is in motion.
Speaking ASA

There is no such rule. A batter may abandon the batter's box any time they choose (when not restricted between pitches). However, when the batter does that, s/he forfeits their right to hit the ball.
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Old Mon Jul 17, 2006, 11:29am
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The coach said nothing
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Speaking ASA

There is no such rule. A batter may abandon the batter's box any time they choose (when not restricted between pitches). However, when the batter does that, s/he forfeits their right to hit the ball.
No such rule is correct - HOWEVER - if the pitcher delivers the pitch and the batter has stepped out of the box - NOW I have a strike.
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Old Mon Jul 17, 2006, 04:09pm
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No such rule is correct - HOWEVER - if the pitcher delivers the pitch and the batter has stepped out of the box - NOW I have a strike.
Even if it's in the dirt or obviously over the batter's head?
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Old Mon Jul 17, 2006, 09:55pm
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Even if it's in the dirt or obviously over the batter's head?
Within reason - when they leave the box, they take with them my reference for the strike zone so I have to go by my faulty memory.
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