Catch?

[fastpitch]

I witnessed an 8U player attempt to catch a popup, the ball goes through her glove and ends up between her elbows. Umpire signals out. Is this a legal catch? From what I've read after searching other posts it sounds like it is not.

[mo99]

What happened next? Did she gain control of the ball before it hit the ground or did she drop it?

Jeff
NFHS Umpire
NCAA Umpire
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[Steve M]

Originally Posted by fastpitch

I witnessed an 8U player attempt to catch a popup, the ball goes through her glove and ends up between her elbows. Umpire signals out. Is this a legal catch? From what I've read after searching other posts it sounds like it is not.

Sp far, I don't have a catch. As soon as this fielder or another reach in and grab the ball, I have a catch - because it's controlled & has a voluntary release. Then again, in 8&U, maybe you're getting an out wherever you can.

[fastpitch]

Play is right at 2B. Gets worse, umpire signals out while ball between elbows, she drops it, runner steps off base, is tagged, in a very close play, umpire signals out again. I hope I don't make the same mistake.

[NDblue]

Did she voluntarily drop it or did it come loose because it wasn't controlled? If she has control of it between her elbows, I have an out.

[outathm]

Having worked 8u I agree with what Steve said. if you cna get an out getit!
Of course our 8U games are usually endind to watch the moms go WWE in the stands.

[Steve M]

Originally Posted by NDblue

Did she voluntarily drop it or did it come loose because it wasn't controlled? If she has control of it between her elbows, I have an out.

Having the ball pinned between a couple of body parts - isn't that what we've got with the ball between the elbows - can't be controlled. It's controlled when it's grabbed with a hand or glove.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by fastpitch

I witnessed an 8U player attempt to catch a popup, the ball goes through her glove and ends up between her elbows. Umpire signals out. Is this a legal catch? From what I've read after searching other posts it sounds like it is not.

Speaking ASA

It is not a catch until firmly held by a defender in the glove or hand prior to touching the ground or objest other then another defender.

A player cannot voluntarily release a ball never controlled.

[NDblue]

Originally Posted by Steve M

Having the ball pinned between a couple of body parts - isn't that what we've got with the ball between the elbows - can't be controlled. It's controlled when it's grabbed with a hand or glove.

See the smiley face at the end of my post? I was being sarcastic but I guess the emotion was lost in cyberspace...

[Steve M]

Originally Posted by NDblue

See the smiley face at the end of my post? I was being sarcastic but I guess the emotion was lost in cyberspace...

Tom,
Then I mis-read it. I know it's not the first time I've mis-read one and I suspect it won't be the last.

[Mountaineer]

I've got a no-catch until the ball is obviously under the player's control.