Your opinions wanted...

[Andy]

Here is the rest of the game report....

Bkbjones - It wasn't the W school.
Darrell - I make the same big bucks that you do for your job....


I approached her
from my position and advised that under the terms of "Victory with Honor"
comments like that would not be allowed and that if she did it again I would be
forced to ask her to leave the area. She then asked why she couldn't tell her
team to pick up the pitcher, and I responded that she could, as long as the
derrogatory comments about the umpires were not included. She then told me that
she wouldn't say it if it wasn't so and accused (deleted umpire's name) of favoritism stating,
"This isn't the first time. You weren't here to see what he did to us last
time". I advised her that I was there the last time (deleted umpire's name) was at (deleted team name), and
that she needed to just coach her team and leave the comments off. She then
walked off and as she did called me a liar. I ignored the comment as she was
saying it as she exited the field and to respond would only exacerbate the
situation. She eventually lost the game, 14-2 in five innings. No further
incidents occurred.



Needless to say, feedback was provided....

[CecilOne]

I see at least three more ejections besides the orignal, in the remainder of the report.

[Dakota]

Presumably, this was a newer umpire.

One thing that the umpire training I have benefitted from has almost completely avoided is this issue of behavior and ejections. Perhaps the clinicians do not want to appear to be "pushing" ejections, but I do know that in my first couple of years, I let things go that I should not have, and would not let go now. I had no real training in where the line was and how to recognize it when it was crossed and whether I would be "backed up" by my UIC, etc.

Something for clinicians to think about.

[gsf23]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Presumably, this was a newer umpire.

One thing that the umpire training I have benefitted from has almost completely avoided is this issue of behavior and ejections. Perhaps the clinicians do not want to appear to be "pushing" ejections, but I do know that in my first couple of years, I let things go that I should not have, and would not let go now. I had no real training in where the line was and how to recognize it when it was crossed and whether I would be "backed up" by my UIC, etc.

Something for clinicians to think about.

Our UIC here was pretty much just the opposite and told us to be pricks our first year and eject a coach if they even looked at us funny.

[LIIRISHMAN]

Any umpire who would let a coach call you a LIAR and not eject them on the spot needs to do something else to occupy the 2 hrs a game usually takes. You can't under any circumstances allow a coach to speak to you or your partner in that matter.

[tcblue13]

I hope that "exited the field" does not mean entered the dugout.

Good Grief, You let her call you a liar!???

Did you toss her?
From reading the post it sounds like you did not.
If you did, it might make some sense to ignore the liar remark although I would have spoken to the AD about it

[orangeump]

I like the part where it says "no other incidents occured"
Maybe cause this coach just murdered you and got away with it a half dozen times?

Why did the plate umpire do nothing? It appears that the base umpires had to take care of this? Why was this person not ejected after the comment about being a liar?!

Wow, am I the only one with some self respect?

[mcrowder]

Let's start with the unanimous decision that the initial comments warranted immediate ejection, but then proceed as if, for some ridiculous reason, we didn't eject her...

Originally Posted by Andy

I approached her from my position and advised that under the terms of "Victory with Honor" comments like that would not be allowed and that if she did it again I would be forced to ask her to leave the area.

OK - so we warned her.

She then asked why she couldn't tell her team to pick up the pitcher, and I responded that she could, as long as the derrogatory comments about the umpires were not included. She then told me that she wouldn't say it if it wasn't so

Ejected.

and accused (deleted umpire's name) of favoritism stating, "This isn't the first time. You weren't here to see what he did to us last time".

Ejected. (What was our warning for again????!!!!??)

I advised her that I was there the last time (deleted umpire's name) was at (deleted team name), and that she needed to just coach her team and leave the comments off. She then walked off and as she did called me a liar.

Ejection. Good grief - what does it take to get ejected around here?!?!

I ignored the comment as she was saying it as she exited the field and to respond would only exacerbate the situation. She eventually lost the game, 14-2 in five innings. No further incidents occurred.

Needless to say, feedback was provided....

Hopefully very sternly and in no uncertain terms.

[azbigdawg]

I just want to thank my fellow High school umpire for making someone elses job more difficult. I promise, guys.......in 99% of the cases...the FIRST comment would be an ejection....if not the 2nd....or 3rd........ We really DO know what we are doing here...... I promise.....really......