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Old Tue Apr 04, 2006, 09:25am
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Just to clarify for those that didn't read the first thread...

"Did not have a chance to become a strike" can be misread (and was! By me in the OP).

Grey means a pitch that would not have otherwise become a strike had it not hit the batter.

Initially, I read this as a ball that did not have a chance to become a strike BECAUSE of the batter being hit outside the box... and that it would have become a strike had the batter not deprived it of it's full flight toward the plate.

In Grey's sitch, this is indeed a HBP. If the pitch was going to be a strike, however, had it continued it's flight, it is a DBS.
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