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Old Sun Oct 16, 2022, 06:52pm
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Foul/fair

3 person.
No one on base.
Batter bunts down the third base line (kind of a little pop up). Third baseman comes in and dives for the bunt, near the line but in fair territory, ball gets touched in fair territory by the third baseman, then rolls foul. Plate ump calls foul ball. Coach challenges the call. Plate ump calls third base ump over to discuss. After short discussion, plate ump changes his call to fair ball.
Is this correct procedure?
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Old Sun Oct 16, 2022, 10:42pm
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3 person.
No one on base.
Batter bunts down the third base line (kind of a little pop up). Third baseman comes in and dives for the bunt, near the line but in fair territory, ball gets touched in fair territory by the third baseman, then rolls foul. Plate ump calls foul ball. Coach challenges the call. Plate ump calls third base ump over to discuss. After short discussion, plate ump changes his call to fair ball.
Is this correct procedure?
Yes.

And as described it was a fair ball.
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Old Sun Oct 16, 2022, 11:24pm
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What would happen? I would imagine the batter would be placed at 1st base, because there is no legal way the batter can return to bat after hitting a fair ball.
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Old Mon Oct 17, 2022, 11:58am
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What would happen? I would imagine the batter would be placed at 1st base, because there is no legal way the batter can return to bat after hitting a fair ball.
The rule we call umpire jeopardy, USA 10.3.C
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Old Tue Oct 18, 2022, 11:08pm
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The rule we call umpire jeopardy, USA 10.3.C
Is there somewhere in the fed rulebook/casebook on this play?
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Old Wed Oct 19, 2022, 02:08pm
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Is there somewhere in the fed rulebook/casebook on this play?
No. None of the current Rule 10 case plays (USA and Fed) cover changing a foul ball to fair. NCAA allows changing a foul ball to fair for dead ball base awards only.
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Old Thu Oct 20, 2022, 09:32am
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Is there somewhere in the fed rulebook/casebook on this play?
NFHS 10-2-3-m
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Old Mon Oct 17, 2022, 12:00pm
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3 person.
No one on base.
Batter bunts down the third base line (kind of a little pop up). Third baseman comes in and dives for the bunt, near the line but in fair territory, ball gets touched in fair territory by the third baseman, then rolls foul. Plate ump calls foul ball. Coach challenges the call. Plate ump calls third base ump over to discuss. After short discussion, plate ump changes his call to fair ball.
Is this correct procedure?
Correct procedure - yes as Rich said.
Better procedure - make the correct call.
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