Ball Thrown Out of Play, 2 Bases Awarded from Time of Pitch?

[Crabby_Bob]

Aside from the "FU" misstating the rule and setting grounds for a protest, he probably just doesn't know if R1 had touched 2nd at the time of the throw. Runner placement is judgment but the coach wins if he gets the "FU" to state R1 had touched 2nd at the time of the throw.

FU should RTFM.

[Tru_in_Blu]

In addition, PU should have had eyes on R1 after trailing BR for a bit and then moving toward the holding zone once R1 rounded second. Theoretically, PU would have had R1, F5 in his/her field of vision.

Unless FU was being obtuse, a conversation between the 2 umpires probably should have occurred.

[Rich Ives]

I guess softball is different than baseball.

For the baseball folks: First play by an infielder, which this is, is two bases time of pitch.

[Cecil4]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

I guess softball is different than baseball.

For the baseball folks: First play by an infielder, which this is, is two bases time of pitch.

I hope no one reads this and thinks it is the correct rule.
The only time time of pitch applies to base awards is on a pitch.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by Cecil4

I hope no one reads this and thinks it is the correct rule.
The only time time of pitch applies to base awards is on a pitch.

Along with:

Hands are part of the bat.
Tie goes to the runner.
Foul tip straight to the backstop.

[Cecil4]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Along with:

Hands are part of the bat.
Tie goes to the runner.
Foul tip straight to the backstop.

It is more like not moving the pivot foot when not dribbling ( rule from another sport)

[Tru_in_Blu]

With R1 on first base, B2 hits safely to F5 or to outfielder F8. The throw is over or through F3. RULING: If the overthrow does not become dead, there are no awards. If the overthrow becomes dead, two bases are awarded each runner (including the BR) from the base occupied when the throw left the hand of F5 or F8. (8.4.3e)

[Crabby_Bob]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

I guess softball is different than baseball.

For the baseball folks: First play by an infielder, which this is, is two bases time of pitch.

Which is incomplete for BASEBALL. OBR: If the BR has reached first base at the time of the throw, the award is two bases from the time of the throw.

Let there be no confusion. In SOFTBALL, the award for a throw that enters dead ball territory is two bases from the time of the throw.