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Old Tue Jul 16, 2019, 12:53pm
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NFHS Rules.
From the 2019 Rules-

Rule 8-7 on Page 71:

Article 2 uses the verbiage "... must immediately return to the base or attempt to advance to the next base" which suggests to me that the LBR is intended for between-bases running.

However, Article 3 says "stops at a base ... will be declared out if she leaves the base." Here only one base is explicitly mentioned. There is no "leaving to advance" or "leaving to return" to some other base. Implicitly there seems to be another base, but the Rule does not say so.

Then we have Rule 8-6-19 on Page 70:

The verbiage is "abandons a base by entering dead-ball territory." Here the path is clearly from a base to the dugout, and no other base is involved.

So what is your understanding in the above scenario? Does the LBR apply and she is Out? Or is she abandoning a base, and the LBR does not apply, and she has to be tagged Out?
Basis: " ball is returned to the pitcher" while the runner is on the base, also no time out/dead ball.

Why not 8-6-18, "runner fails to keep contact with the base" ... "until the ball leaves the pitcher's hand". That is an out, no tag required.
Although the LBR can apply to that situation, it is about running/attaining bases and resetting; not a base already attained. Still an out.

There is no dead ball territory involved, so 8-6-19 does not apply.

Art. 8-6-3 is about batted balls, so also not relevant.
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Old Wed Jul 17, 2019, 08:27am
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Basis: " ball is returned to the pitcher" while the runner is on the base, also no time out/dead ball.

Why not 8-6-18, "runner fails to keep contact with the base" ... "until the ball leaves the pitcher's hand". That is an out, no tag required.
Although the LBR can apply to that situation, it is about running/attaining bases and resetting; not a base already attained. Still an out.

There is no dead ball territory involved, so 8-6-19 does not apply.

Art. 8-6-3 is about batted balls, so also not relevant.
8-6-18 applies during the pitch. This is about the LBR and it's an LBR violation. She left a base she was stopped at while the ball was in the circle.
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