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Old Sat Jul 06, 2019, 09:57am
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Interference with a player while the ball is foul is not illegal(*); find a rule to prove me wrong.

(*) at least it doesn't result in an out
How about 8-7-J-1-F? For USA Softball, it's actually 2 outs.
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Old Sun Jul 07, 2019, 07:22am
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How about 8-7-J-1-F? For USA Softball, it's actually 2 outs.
I agree with youngump. IMO, USA's wording is faulty as a caught fly ball is nothing more than a caught fly ball and the position of said ball is irrelevant to the rules. A ball does not become foul until it is no longer a fly ball
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Old Sun Jul 07, 2019, 09:24am
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For the EXCEPTION section, it should just read "any fly ball that can be caught with ordinary effort". If it is interfered with, both interfering runner and batter are called out.

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Old Mon Jul 08, 2019, 09:01am
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How about 8-7-J-1-F? For USA Softball, it's actually 2 outs.
I don't have my rulebook with me but I believe that's for a fly ball? My comment should have said interfering with a player while a grounded ball is foul. Fly balls on either side of the line are not the same thing.
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Old Tue Jul 09, 2019, 03:50pm
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Wow, this discussion was so convoluted; I've never seen so many different things talked about in 15 posts. Foul ground balls, foul fly balls, detached equipment, bats hitting balls a second time...

Is it pretty much a done deal that the situation in the OP was nothing but a foul ball?
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Old Tue Jul 09, 2019, 04:53pm
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Wow, this discussion was so convoluted; I've never seen so many different things talked about in 15 posts. Foul ground balls, foul fly balls, detached equipment, bats hitting balls a second time...
That's the trouble with simple ones.


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Is it pretty much a done deal that the situation in the OP was nothing but a foul ball?
Yep !
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Old Tue Jul 09, 2019, 08:39pm
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Wow, this discussion was so convoluted; I've never seen so many different things talked about in 15 posts. Foul ground balls, foul fly balls, detached equipment, bats hitting balls a second time...

Is it pretty much a done deal that the situation in the OP was nothing but a foul ball?
Agreed. We spiraled off on many tangents. Some more related than others. (So was this a new world's indoor record??)

As the original poster, I do agree that this should have been simply ruled a foul ball.

And I did find the phrasing that got me confused in the first place. (That was one of those tangents.)
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I went back to my post to see how much it deviated from topic, and discovered it was easily the dumbest comment/question I've ever posted here...
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