Obstruction or Out?

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

I think we pretty much saw "the entire play". If you're looking for 14 different angles, too bad, so sad.

I don't think we see everything we need to see in regards to what the runner is doing. That is the key part we need to see to make a proper determination on this play. The key part is when the contact is made, the ball is in the glove of the SS, albeit about 7 feet above the runner.

The replay doesn't show the runner until she is in her slide because she is blocked by other players on the field.

This is one of the toughest calls to make because you need to determine when the fielder is in possession, which is way above her head, and when the potential obstruction occurs.

I also would love to know how many umpires were on this game. Was it a two or three umpire system? Who made the call and how was the decision made to change the call?

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by chapmaja

I also would love to know how many umpires were on this game. Was it a two or three umpire system? Who made the call and how was the decision made to change the call?

I'll guess two based on comments from other posters. Unless there was also a runner on third, the 3-ump system would have had U3 right behind second base. Looks like U1 was in "B" and it would have been his call.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

This game was covered in two man with two Southern Section finalist umpires. Initial call made was an out. Then the Great Oak coach had a conference with the umpires who conferred and switch the call to safe. The Vista Murrieta coach then argued and was subsequently ejected along with three fans.

[Manny A]

FWIW, I have Obstruction here. The runner is already into her slide well short of the base and before the ball is in F6's glove. I did a screen capture of the video while the ball is still in flight, and I can see the runner already making her slide too early because of where F6 is positioned. Unfortunately, I can't attach the image here, but you can see the same thing just by stopping the video at the proper time. I think it is a good change of call.

[Tru_in_Blu]

The March 2018 Plays and Clarifications has Video 2 which is similar to what we've been discussing here.

The call on that video was that there was no OBS. I do not agree with that call. I had OBS when watching it the first time at regular speed. Check it at the 42-second mark.

http://downloads.asasoftball.com/ump...akeTheCall.mp4

Anyone remember if these videos had sound? I thought they did, but I've viewed videos on any number of sites that maybe I'm thinking of other videos.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

The March 2018 Plays and Clarifications has Video 2 which is similar to what we've been discussing here.

The call on that video was that there was no OBS. I do not agree with that call. I had OBS when watching it the first time at regular speed. Check it at the 42-second mark.

http://downloads.asasoftball.com/ump...akeTheCall.mp4

Anyone remember if these videos had sound? I thought they did, but I've viewed videos on any number of sites that maybe I'm thinking of other videos.

I'm in the out in the video, safe in the USA play camp. The difference being I don't think the runner in the USA play slid early. The video play the runner wouldn't have made it to second from that slide even if the fielder had somehow dodged her.

[jwwashburn]

Who ejected the fans?

[SCalScoreKeeper]

Home plate umpire made the ejections