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Old Sun Mar 18, 2018, 09:06am
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To my point a few replies ago... You're not the only one that might hear the magic word. You heard it just fine, which means you probably don't need a hearing test.

But if your partner heard it, a lot of players, coaches, and fans probably heard it as well.
And I really wouldn't care unless it is specifically directed at an umpire or another participant. I've got more important things to do than be the language police
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Old Sun Mar 18, 2018, 09:50am
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But we officials are charged with enforcing sportsmanship rules.

Years ago, when I started umpiring (baseball), I worked the local Catholic HS league. We were taught, somewhat facetiously, to say to a kid who cursed, "Son, I don't mind that kind of language, but my partner is a priest, and it really upsets him."
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Old Sun Mar 18, 2018, 10:07am
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We were taught, somewhat facetiously, to say to a kid who cursed, "Son, I don't mind that kind of language, but my partner is a priest, and it really upsets him."
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Old Sun Mar 18, 2018, 12:05pm
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One of our umpires that works the HS games actually is a priest. Not catholic, though. I'm not sure what denomination, but he never does attend the Sunday annual meeting because he's "working".

Fortunately, there are a couple of other dates/locations that he can choose to attend.
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Old Sun Mar 18, 2018, 12:07pm
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And I really wouldn't care unless it is specifically directed at an umpire or another participant. I've got more important things to do than be the language police
Yabbut... sometimes, that's what the leagues ask us to do.
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Old Sun Mar 18, 2018, 08:27pm
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Yabbut... sometimes, that's what the leagues ask us to do.
Yup. If you accept the job, you accept the requirements of the job.
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Old Sun Mar 18, 2018, 10:13pm
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Yup. If you accept the job, you accept the requirements of the job.
I accept the job of officiating a softball game, not social behavioral control.
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Old Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:54am
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I accept the job of officiating a softball game, not social behavioral control.
One of our leagues has this wording in their bylaws:

e. If the umpire witnesses a player stating the "F" word, "JC" (in vain) or "God Damn" during the game, the player will be immediately ejected from that game. If the umpire hears something that crosses the line, he will issue a warning to the team and coach. In that case they will be warned one time before a player will be ejected from the game.

Would you choose to simply not work that league or ignore the guidelines given to the umpires who work the game(s)?
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One of our leagues has this wording in their bylaws:
Wow. Is that a church league?
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Wow. Is that a church league?
Yes, it is.
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One of our leagues has this wording in their bylaws:

e. If the umpire witnesses a player stating the "F" word, "JC" (in vain) or "God Damn" during the game, the player will be immediately ejected from that game. If the umpire hears something that crosses the line, he will issue a warning to the team and coach. In that case they will be warned one time before a player will be ejected from the game.

Would you choose to simply not work that league or ignore the guidelines given to the umpires who work the game(s)?
I would probably choose to not work that league or tell them up front I'm not their shill.

This is nothing new for me. I've held the same opinion for decades and have never ejected anyone for simple language issues. Do not believe in what people refer to as profanity. If you take offense to a word, that is your issue, not mine.

But that is me and I can appreciate other opinions or beliefs.
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Old Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:31am
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I would probably choose to not work that league or tell them up front I'm not their shill.

This is nothing new for me. I've held the same opinion for decades and have never ejected anyone for simple language issues. Do not believe in what people refer to as profanity. If you take offense to a word, that is your issue, not mine.

But that is me and I can appreciate other opinions or beliefs.
Yes, I know this has been your consistent view on this for years. My only point on the language issue (which you apparently agree with) is if it is a league rule that the league expects umpires to enforce, then you either enforce the rule or don't take the job.

Rules like this have from time to time appeared in local leagues around here. At one time, it was even the MN rule for ASA JO games. Everyone knew this and expected it to be enforced. Working out an arrangement where a single umpire would not have to enforce it would probably have not ended well if there was a violating coach or team in his game.

Of course, all that probably appears insufferably quaint and/or hypocritical to rough and tumble east-coasters such as you!
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