USA change 4 - appeals

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Or you train the kids to know the game and how to handle all aspects of it. When I first started umpiring, it was baseball 8-13 yo and they had no problem making appeals without direction of a coach.

While knowing how to make an appeal is a part of the issue, the more common issue for dead ball appeals, in my experience, is the players not noticing that there was a missed base, etc.

If the coach sees it, it is just more efficient if he just makes the appeal directly rather than yelling to his players, potentially back and forth a couple of times.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

While knowing how to make an appeal is a part of the issue, the more common issue for dead ball appeals, in my experience, is the players not noticing that there was a missed base, etc.

If the coach sees it, it is just more efficient if he just makes the appeal directly rather than yelling to his players, potentially back and forth a couple of times.

Again, it is all about teaching them the game and how to play it.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Again, it is all about teaching them the game and how to play it.

And, again, I'm talking about the reality of the game as it is, not as it could be with better coaches and better players.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

And, again, I'm talking about the reality of the game as it is, not as it could be with better coaches and better players.

Doesn't mean they cannot try. After all, isn't that their job? Doesn't that what the term "coach" means

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Doesn't mean they cannot try. After all, isn't that their job? Doesn't that what the term "coach" means

I agree with you in principle... I'm just being selfish... keep things moving.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I agree with you in principle... .

Something to be thankful for this week.

[Manny A]

Here’s an even more radical thought: how about just doing away with appeals altogether, and have Umpires make the calls when they see the violations? I’m not sure where this process came from in baseball and softball, but I believe they are the only two team sports where officials see violations, but can’t do a damn thing about them until the defense appeals? Why? And why only baserunning gaffes? Why don’t we allow for appeals by the offense when a fielder fails to tag a base or catch a sinking line drive?

There are no appeals in football when a player is guilty of being offsides or moving before the snap. There are no appeals in basketball when a player travels or steps on the line while touching the ball. A hockey or soccer player who is offsides gets penalized immediately, and not when a coach requests an appeal. If a runner can’t run the bases properly, why give him/her the free pass if the defense doesn’t catch it? Let us make the call right away. It would certainly speed up the game.