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If you look in the definition section of the ASA book on appeals it states:
An appeal play is a play on which an umpire may not make a decision until requested by a manager, coach or player. When you look in the POE #1 on appeals...........it instructs you on when, how, and who may make appeals. At no point does it state that a manager or coach may make an appeal.........only fielders (it specifically states an infielder in a dead ball appeal). Is the point of the definition that the manager or coach may start the appeal procedure.......but it still must be properly completed by a fielder? Just thought that this could be a bit confusing if someone ONLY read the definition section. Joel |
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Joel,
I've been aware of this for as long as I can remember reading the different types of appeal. An infielder isn't likely to be the one to request an appeal on BOO or a rules interpretation, that manager or coach is going to make that one. However, on a missed base or a base left too soon on a caught fly ball, the book differentiates between a live and dead ball appeal. The reason for the need for an "infielder" to make a dead ball appeal, with or without the ball, is to create some sort of order when requesting an appeal, not having outfielders screaming and hollering to the umpires. Just a thought.
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Joel,
I had some confusion when I first read the definition too then went to POE#1 for proper appeals I came to the conclusion that the definition was referring to coach's right to appeal situation such as a called 3rd strike and to ask ump to appeal to his partner on certain out and safe calls didnt see anywhere a coach could ask for an appeal in baserunning violations though And what Mike just said (didnt see his post till I already posted) JMHO Don |
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