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Old Fri Oct 06, 2017, 09:47pm
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Runner's lane question 2

The sit I raised at the end of the other thread of this name, happened tonight at the end the Wash/Chicago game.
D3K, F3 sets up in foul ground to take the throw from F2, B/R clearly running in fair territory gets plunked square in the back. INT.
F2 would've had no problem getting the out with an accurate throw (to foul side). I know, not relevant.

I'm looking for a ruling for NCAA, with no safety base. Can she run in fair ground if F3 sets up foul and the throw is coming from foul without fear of INT (like double-bag rulesets)?
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Old Sat Oct 07, 2017, 05:45pm
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either:

1 a very difficult question

2 a very stupid question

Im banking on 2.
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Old Mon Oct 09, 2017, 07:33pm
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In NCAA, I have an out for INT on the BR. This applies both under the "current" ruleset (which has no runner's lane) or under the upcoming 2018-2019 rules.
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:39am
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thanks for that, teebob... the only reason I even bring it up is that ASA makes the point of spelling out the exception.
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:47am
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thanks for that, teebob... the only reason I even bring it up is that ASA makes the point of spelling out the exception.
To what exception are you referring?
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:02am
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Not an exception per se, but paraphrasing, ASA (and PONY) indicates that, when F3 is set up in foul ground (guess that means on the orange bag, so that should answer the question right there), and the throw comes from foul ground, the BR may choose to use fair ground (and the white bag) without fear of INT
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:06am
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What is "ASA" ?
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:13am
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HAH... sorry. :\ last time I called an ASA/USA game, it was ASA...
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:21am
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Not an exception per se, but paraphrasing, ASA (and PONY) indicates that, when F3 is set up in foul ground (guess that means on the orange bag, so that should answer the question right there), and the throw comes from foul ground, the BR may choose to use fair ground (and the white bag) without fear of INT
So here's the thing; NFHS acknowledges that there may be a double bag (if state allows), but makes no rules relating to it. NCAA does not allow it.

So, the basic rule is that the only place to be without risk of interference (just because of the location) is in the one and only running lane.

Realistically, except in the instance where runner and throw cross paths in a "good" throw, it would be rare that interference should be applied on what would generally be an errant throw as I visualize what you are asking.
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:35am
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goes without saying (so I'll say it anyway), BR can't go wrong by just running in the dang Lane, so just do it.

The MLB game (hate to reference it) had F3, right foot on the bag, left foot way foul, ready for the throw from foul ground. Zimmerman, running way fair, hit square in the back.

F2 could've easily gotten an out with a quality throw, but this way, he potentially got runner(s) to return to their base(s).
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