BOO today

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Looking for inputs and discussion.

We had a BOO situation today, USA invitational tournament. Tie breaker to begin the top of an inning with runner placed on 2nd base.

First batter popped out. No advance by runner.

Next batter turned out to be an improper batter. During her AB, runner advanced to third base on and wild pitch. Runner then scored on a wild pitch. Batter then received a base on balls.

At this point, the defensive coach asked for time to protest the BOO.

I was on the bases and after a short discussion, I heard the PU declared the runner on first base out. I'm standing out there wondering what's going on. My initial thought was that we had an unreported sub. Once he invited me in to the discussion, I learned that the defense had protested the BOO. No pitch had yet been thrown to the next batter.

What should have happened? I'll respond after some replies. There's one bit in the rule that I'm wondering about.

Thanx.

Proper batter out. Improper batter at bat negated. R1 returns to 2nd.

[RKBUmp]

The advance of the runner on wild pitches is legal as it was not as a result of the incorrect batter putting the ball into play or becoming a batter/runner.

[josephrt1]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Proper batter out. Improper batter at bat negated. R1 returns to 2nd.

Nope. The runners would return only if they scored on the actual play when the batter advanced. in this case the runner had already scored before the batter walked. This is true in a BOO or in an unreported sub situation.

BOO 7.2.D
D. If batting out of order is discovered:
1. While the incorrect batter is at bat:
A The correct batter must take the batter’s position and assume the balls and strikes count.
B Any runner advanced and runs scored while the incorrect batter was at bat shall be legal.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by josephrt1

Nope. The runners would return only if they scored on the actual play when the batter advanced. in this case the runner had already scored before the batter walked. This is true in a BOO or in an unreported sub situation.

BOO 7.2.D
D. If batting out of order is discovered:
1. While the incorrect batter is at bat:
A The correct batter must take the batter’s position and assume the balls and strikes count.
B Any runner advanced and runs scored while the incorrect batter was at bat shall be legal.

I was applying 7.2.d.2.3 (after the turn at bat).
That maybe a good way to interpret that rule, because "result" is ambiguous relative to the wild pitches.

Need to check RS & interpretations.

[RKBUmp]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I was applying 7.2.d.2.3 (after the turn at bat).
That maybe a good way to interpret that rule, because "result" is ambiguous relative to the wild pitches.

Need to check RS & interpretations.

Lets alter the play a little. Instead of the runner advancing and scoring on wild pitches lets say they got picked off. Would you erase the out and put them back on base after the batting out of order appeal?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

Lets alter the play a little. Instead of the runner advancing and scoring on wild pitches lets say they got picked off. Would you erase the out and put them back on base after the batting out of order appeal?

No, outs stand. Different ruling than advancing.

[RKBUmp]

And, any advance of runners not attributed to the incorrect batter becoming a batter/runner also stand.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Proper batter out. Improper batter at bat negated. R1 returns to 2nd.

Nope. There were no runners on base at the time the improper batter received a walk.