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Old Fri Apr 07, 2017, 10:53am
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At what point does the game begin, that is, at what point does the time begin to run?

I umpire baseball, not softball, and although I tried to find an answer on line, I perhaps missed it.
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Old Fri Apr 07, 2017, 11:12am
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At what point does the game begin, that is, at what point does the time begin to run?

I umpire baseball, not softball, and although I tried to find an answer on line, I perhaps missed it.
The ASA book used to say at the first pitch, which I would never actually do unless there was a separate person keeping the time... I have more important things to concentrate on at the time of the first pitch; they've now changed it to the first warm-up pitch, which is what I would have typically used anyway. Now that I use my watch, and not a countdown timer, I make it a habit to announce the start time so there is no mystery with the coaches.

Some umpires will start it at the end of the plate meeting as a technique to limit dawdling by the home team taking the field (I've even seen that specified in the tournament rules).
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Old Fri Apr 07, 2017, 11:26am
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At what point does the game begin, that is, at what point does the time begin to run?

I umpire baseball, not softball, and although I tried to find an answer on line, I perhaps missed it.
USA (formerly known as ASA) starts on the first pitch by rule, first warm up pitch by custom (and practicality). Look near the end of rule 5.

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Read Tom's post, forgot actually by rule now.
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Old Sat Apr 08, 2017, 07:53am
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Some tournaments ive done starting time was after the first pitch was delivered.
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Old Mon Apr 10, 2017, 08:35am
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Some tournaments ive done starting time was after the first pitch was delivered.
That's typical for the start of a game, but the new inning starts once the final out is made in the current inning.
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Old Mon Apr 10, 2017, 10:42am
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Some tournaments ive done starting time was after the first pitch was delivered.
Not anymore, if you go by the book. This was posted on the USA Softball website for the 2017 Rule Changes:

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Rule 5 Section 10 When the time limit rule is in effect time begins with the first warm up pitch….
Comment: Better defines when the time limit begins.
I do like it when tournament directors use when the plate conference ends as the start time. As mentioned above, it does make the home team come out and take the field a little quicker. I'm not sure if USA Softball HQ is going to tell tournament directors to go with the official rule.
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Old Mon Apr 10, 2017, 12:48pm
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...I do like it when tournament directors use when the plate conference ends as the start time. As mentioned above, it does make the home team come out and take the field a little quicker. I'm not sure if USA Softball HQ is going to tell tournament directors to go with the official rule.
Just add 1 minute to the time limit and start at the end of the plate conference! If home does what they are supposed to do, no effect at all on game time!
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