Offense appeals checked swing

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Scooby

And the offense can ask for and on an appeal a checked swing. Sit. 0-2 count Plate umpire calls a ball on and the ball gets by the catcher and the batter runs to 1st.

No, the offense cannot ask the umpire to get help on a check swing. As noted above, the umpire doesn't call a swing unless s/he sees a swing.

[jmkupka]

If in that case, OC yells "ask for help", and F2 instinctively turns and asks, "did she go?", I guess I can to to my BU...

Sounds like DMC to me.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by jmkupka

If in that case, OC yells "ask for help", and F2 instinctively turns and asks, "did she go?", I guess I can to to my BU...

Sounds like DMC to me.

Say "no, she is still here".

Besides, the BU will look silly in a tutu.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

No, the offense cannot ask the umpire to get help on a check swing. As noted above, the umpire doesn't call a swing unless s/he sees a swing.

Why not? If I don't see a swing and the batter gets to first, I've always assumed I could fix that by asking the BU.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by youngump

Why not? If I don't see a swing and the batter gets to first, I've always assumed I could fix that by asking the BU.

If you "don't see a swing" and did not call it a swing, then a BU can help.

"No, the offense cannot ask the umpire to get help on a check swing. As noted above, the umpire doesn't call a swing unless s/he sees a swing."
is about when it is called a swing by the PU.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

If you "don't see a swing" and did not call it a swing, then a BU can help.

"No, the offense cannot ask the umpire to get help on a check swing. As noted above, the umpire doesn't call a swing unless s/he sees a swing."
is about when it is called a swing by the PU.

That's my take as well. But notices that Irish was replying to a comment that also agreed with us when he said what he said.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by youngump

Why not? If I don't see a swing and the batter gets to first, I've always assumed I could fix that by asking the BU.

What are you fixing? Why would the offense ask the PU to go for help on a "ball" call?

If an umpire calls the pitch a strike, s/he did so for one of two reasons, s/he saw the batter attempt to hit the pitch or the pitch passed through the strike zone.

By calling the pitch a strike on the swing, it isn't a guess, the umpire must judge that the batter attempted to hit a pitch.

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

What are you fixing? Why would the offense ask the PU to go for help on a "ball" call?

It was mentioned in reply #3. KR told of this a few years ago, at a Central Atlantic Clinic (I believe 2005 or 2006). This exact play happened at MMFP, with the added info of the pitch going into the dugout. PU called a "ball" (no swing), but the offense wanted to appeal the swing because BR would be awarded first base (dropped 3K).

If memory serves me correct, it was brought up as "one of those things we don't have a ruling."

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

It was mentioned in reply #3. KR told of this a few years ago, at a Central Atlantic Clinic (I believe 2005 or 2006). This exact play happened at MMFP, with the added info of the pitch going into the dugout. PU called a "ball" (no swing), but the offense wanted to appeal the swing because BR would be awarded first base (dropped 3K).

If memory serves me correct, it was brought up as "one of those things we don't have a ruling."

Well, if that were the case, I was there, but don't remember that one. OTOH, do you remember this one that occurred at the same clinic? A scenario of a pop-up on the 1st base line. P was moving to make the catch and checked up because the BR cut him off. Ball landed fair and then rolled foul. Ruling? Forget the INT, it is easier to just rule it a foul ball.

Yeah, all my guys looked at each other and just shook our head

[JDM]

Can interference be called on a foul ball?

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by JDM

Can interference be called on a foul ball?

No, because once a ball is foul, the ball is also dead. BUT, a fly ball has no status until caught or touched, and that is the crux of Mike's play.

As described, the ball rolling into foul territory does not exclude the call of interference. The interference happened on a fly ball, preventing the ball from being caught. Once interference happens, nothing else can happen.