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Old Tue Aug 04, 2015, 12:25am
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Fourth Out Appeal
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R3 on 1st 2 outs. B4 with a 0-2 count. R3 steals and is thrown out, B4 checks his/her swing. The catcher requests the plate umpire to go for help on the check swing because they do not want to pitch to B4 the next inning.

I believe that this does not fit into one of the reasons to qualify for a 4th out appeal in ASA. I would be interested in any other codes.
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Old Tue Aug 04, 2015, 02:56am
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ASA a fourth out appeal may only be made on a runner who has scored, so no this would not be a valid appeal in ASA.

The fourth out appeal rule in NFHS does allow for 4th out appeals on any runner, but it speaks in reference to negating runs. In the situation you have presented it is not to negate a run so not sure that would be a valid 4th out appeal, but I am not sure.
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Old Tue Aug 04, 2015, 08:09am
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But the strikeout happened before the out at 2B. Shouldn't it count?
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Old Tue Aug 04, 2015, 08:12am
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But the strikeout happened before the out at 2B. Shouldn't it count?

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I was thinking the same thing.

Does that mean great minds think alike, .

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Old Tue Aug 04, 2015, 08:16am
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Was up in the middle of the night when I posted and actually thought about the strike happening before the put out, so technically its really not a 4th out appeal.
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Old Tue Aug 04, 2015, 09:18am
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We call it an "appeal" to ask about a check swing, but is it really?
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Old Wed Aug 05, 2015, 03:30pm
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R3 on 1st 2 outs. B4 with a 0-2 count. R3 steals and is thrown out...
What happened to R1 and R2 as R3 attempted to steal? Was this a triple steal?

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Old Wed Aug 05, 2015, 06:22pm
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What happened to R1 and R2 as R3 attempted to steal? Was this a triple steal?
Didn't notice this (and I don't think anybody else did)... but let's suppose it was actually a triple steal and that the runner from third scored before the tag at 2nd. Now the strikeout is taking a run off the board. But let's suppose that the ball was in the dirt and the runner from home was taking off toward first but stopped going to first when the out was called.
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Old Wed Aug 05, 2015, 09:49pm
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R1 and R2 were out on prior plays given that this play started with 2 outs.
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Old Wed Aug 05, 2015, 09:50pm
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Can anyone give a citation that is supported by the rule book?
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Old Wed Aug 05, 2015, 11:02pm
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can anyone give a citation that is supported by the rule book?
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Old Thu Aug 06, 2015, 07:40am
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Didn't notice this (and I don't think anybody else did)...
Noticed but ignored for the sake of fewer comments.
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