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bainsey Sat Jun 16, 2012 09:27pm

Dangerous or Corner?
 
About ten yards from the corner, attacker A-1 is attempting to play the ball on a high bounce. Defender B-2 kicks the ball near A-1's head. The ball goes over the goal line.

Do you go with an indirect kick ten yards from the corner, or a corner kick (which is direct)?

bainsey Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:34am

No takers?

MD Longhorn Wed Jun 27, 2012 08:45am

Not a soccer ref... but taking experience from the way rules work in most situations in other sports...

Sounds like the high-kick happens before the ball travelling out of bounds. Is it true that the penalty for that was going to be enforce regardless of where the ball went? If so - then enforce that penalty. The OOB never happened.

Eastshire Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:33pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 846419)
About ten yards from the corner, attacker A-1 is attempting to play the ball on a high bounce. Defender B-2 kicks the ball near A-1's head. The ball goes over the goal line.

Do you go with an indirect kick ten yards from the corner, or a corner kick (which is direct)?

It depends on the game. If it's been chippy, had other dangerous plays, or is a low age/skill level, take the dangerous play. If not, it's trifling and take the corner.

bainsey Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:17am

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 847481)
Is it true that the penalty for that was going to be enforce regardless of where the ball went?

Good question. As Eastshire correctly pointed out, it depends. There's a little more freedom and judgment used in soccer officiating than with other sports. In soccer, you can consider the advantage when penalizing most infractions.

The key difference here is that a corner kick is a direct kick (you can score directly from the kick), while a dangerous play consequence is an indirect kick (must be touched by another player for a goal to count). Ultimately, the question I'm asking is, which is more advantageous: an indirect kick from 20 yards, or a direct kick from 30? (I suppose that depends upon the level.)

Eastshire Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:29am

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 847785)
Good question. As Eastshire correctly pointed out, it depends. There's a little more freedom and judgment used in soccer officiating than with other sports. In soccer, you can consider the advantage when penalizing most infractions.

The key difference here is that a corner kick is a direct kick (you can score directly from the kick), while a dangerous play consequence is an indirect kick (must be touched by another player for a goal to count). Ultimately, the question I'm asking is, which is more advantageous: an indirect kick from 20 yards, or a direct kick from 30? (I suppose that depends upon the level.)

Either way, the offense is going to run a corner set piece. Since very few people can score directly from a corner, it's almost certainly going to be touched first. In that matter, it's moot. I think I'd rather have it at the corner so the kicker doesn't have to try to shorten his delivery.

So I get back to the same place, DP only if needed for game management.


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