Blocking a receiver Question

[HLin NC]

He is a potential blocker until he has achieved the same yard line or is moving past the defender and the pass has not been thrown.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is never a penalty if the offensive player is acting like a blocker. Then the defender can hit them if they are an eligible receiver, unless of course the ball is in the air and in the direction of that receiver.

Peace

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Originally Posted by HLin NC

He is a potential blocker until he has achieved the same yard line or is moving past the defender and the pass has not been thrown.

This.

There is no "illegal contact" in NFHS or NCAA rules like there is in the NFL (which this year means the defender breathed heavily on the receiver). The only potential foul you could have is illegal use of the hands if and only if the receiver being blocked is no longer a potential blocker as HLinNC defined above.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by Welpe

The only potential foul you could have is illegal use of the hands if and only if the receiver being blocked is no longer a potential blocker as HLinNC defined above.

You could have holding if he grasps or restricts the receiver in a manner other than a legal block.

[Welpe]

I was talking about a standard block, not holding, blocking below the waist or anything else of the nature.

[Reffing Rev.]

I had a wing report defensive holding and unfortunately my only question was whether or not the ball was in the air yet. He said no we enforced it...post-game the BJ chimed in he thought it was legal contact so the conversation finally happened...as has been said unless the receiver is even with or passed or his restricted (held) this is legal contact.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

I had a wing report defensive holding and unfortunately my only question was whether or not the ball was in the air yet. He said no we enforced it...post-game the BJ chimed in he thought it was legal contact so the conversation finally happened...as has been said unless the receiver is even with or passed or his restricted (held) this is legal contact.

There is more to it than where the receiver is in relationship to the yard line the defender is on. If the receiver is clearly running a route, then you have to have a foul. But this is where football IQ comes into play, you often know when there is doubt.

My question in this case about your post game, why is the BJ coming in after the game giving that information? That should have been information given before you enforced the penalty.

Peace

[Juxone]

"It is never a penalty if the offensive player is acting like a blocker. Then the defender can hit them if they are an eligible receiver, unless of course the ball is in the air and in the direction of that receiver. "

I am actually talking about an offensive player who is or appears to be running a route and does NOT attempt to make contact with B-- Offensive player runs 10 yards and makes a post and is contacted by B before the pass .. ??

[Juxone]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There is more to it than where the receiver is in relationship to the yard line the defender is on. If the receiver is clearly running a route, then you have to have a foul. But this is where football IQ comes into play, you often know when there is doubt.

I think the part of "..If the receiver is clearly running a route, then you have to have a foul." answers my question, it is a foul regardless and if the ball is in the air it become DPI??

So if the ball is NOT in the air what is the call?? Holding?