Iowa-LSU last play question.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

You can decline any penalty. You would not be declining the safety - but rather the penalty that caused the safety.

Say, for example, someone threw an illegal forward pass out of the end zone, and that pass was intercepted and returned for a TD - they would absolutely decline the IFP penalty and take the safety.

They'd take the TD, right?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tjones1

They'd take the TD, right?

Would they get both? Ouch.

The penalty that was announced was illegal batting, which was clearly the correct call. Whether one of the passes was forward or not, I don't know, there were no good angles shown to know that.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by tjones1

They'd take the TD, right?

Fixed. thanks.

[BoBo]

i thought i heard that was a big 2 points in Vegas in regards to the final score

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BoBo

i thought i heard that was a big 2 points in Vegas in regards to the final score

I believe the spread was 7.5.

[tsucret]

It was a very big 2 points. They're were multiple fouls on that play. Since the game was over, the officials just announced an obvious batting call. Most people here are right. You can't decline a safety if the quarterback is sacked in the end zone on the last play of the game ( or any other time) but you can if the safety was the result of a penalty. If there was 1 second left and all the fouls were correctly called, LSU would have taken the safety.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by tsucret

It was a very big 2 points. They're were multiple fouls on that play. Since the game was over, the officials just announced an obvious batting call. Most people here are right. You can't decline a safety if the quarterback is sacked in the end zone on the last play of the game ( or any other time) but you can if the safety was the result of a penalty. If there was 1 second left and all the fouls were correctly called, LSU would have taken the safety.

It wasn't big to anyone who wasn't betting on the game.

[tsucret]

Very true.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tsucret

It was a very big 2 points. They're were multiple fouls on that play. Since the game was over, the officials just announced an obvious batting call. Most people here are right. You can't decline a safety if the quarterback is sacked in the end zone on the last play of the game ( or any other time) but you can if the safety was the result of a penalty. If there was 1 second left and all the fouls were correctly called, LSU would have taken the safety.

I could be wrong, but my understanding is you can't decline the safety here, even if you decline the penalty.

[parepat]

Originally Posted by tsucret

You can't decline a safety if the quarterback is sacked in the end zone on the last play of the game ( or any other time) but you can if the safety was the result of a penalty.

I have a vague memory that this is not true under NFHS. Illegal forward pass from EZ is a safety. No options. Anyone know for sure?

[HLin NC]

Correct, you can decline the distance but you gain the points no matter what in NF.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by parepat

I have a vague memory that this is not true under NFHS. Illegal forward pass from EZ is a safety. No options. Anyone know for sure?

Not just IFP, but any penalty that is enforced from the ez. In this case, it wasn't an illegal forward pass (as announced); in this case it was an illegal batting.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by parepat

I have a vague memory that this is not true under NFHS. Illegal forward pass from EZ is a safety. No options. Anyone know for sure?

This is true for an incomplete illegal forward pass from the endzone because the run is considered as ending at the spot of the IFP. (In NCAA, the offended team can decline the penalty and have the ball returned to the previous spot.)

A completed IFP will have a result of the play, whatever it may be, that can potentially be accepted by the offending team declining the penalty for the IFP.