Recovering from Football season

[bigjohn]

I did not say they knew he was concussed. I said it was obvious he was showing signs or symptoms of a head injury/concussion. That is all that is needed for this rule to kick in. It doesn't matter who took him out of the game, it is the Referees job to stop play and remove him if he allowed back in the game.

That is what the DOD has said in official memos!
http://www.ohsaa.org/members/Memos/2013-08-30.pdf

3. Concussion:**When*a*player*has*signs*or*symptoms*o f*a*concussion*he*is*suspended*
from*the*game*and*may*not*reenter*the*game.**This* is*based*upon*Ohio*House*Bill*143.**
If*an*Ohio*Team*plays*a*game*in*another*state,*thi s*Rule*applies.**If*an*out*of*state*team*
plays*a*game*in*Ohio,*this*Rule*applies.**This*is* because*it*is*a*state*law*now

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

I did not say they knew he was concussed. I said it was obvious he was showing signs or symptoms of a head injury/concussion. That is all that is needed for this rule to kick in. It doesn't matter who took him out of the game, it is the Referees job to stop play and remove him if he allowed back in the game.

I know why we have talked about this before, but how was it obvious? Most of the stuff you claim that made it obvious was stuff after the game that you highlighted. Not sure how that is obvious. Not sure how that means the officials in the game noticed why the player was taken off the field? And BTW, the Referee is not the single person that stops play (more ignorance on your part). Any official can stop play for all kinds of reasons. One day you will realize that not everything is about what you think it should be.

Peace

[bigjohn]

You are correct, there are 5 officials that should have seen this.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

You are correct, there are 5 officials that should have seen this.

And more ignorance, because 5 officials are not all watching the same things and certainly not the ball carrier. I would not be surprised if 3 or 4 guys did not even see the hit in question.

Peace

[bigjohn]

yeah, what were they all doing while he was being attended to an helped off the field?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

yeah, what were they all doing while he was being attended to an helped off the field?

Several things. Talking about down and distance. Observing huddles or conferences. Talking to each other about a player or coach question. There are so many things officials can be doing and are doing during any timeout situation. Even at the State Finals they might be talking to someone about if they are going to commercial and when they come back if the games are on TV. There are a lot of things going on because everyone is not always focused on the injury when medical personnel are taking care of the situation. But if you officiated you might know that already and stop acting like you are shocked that the "Referee" who was the original person you thought should have seen this. And the Referee in many cases is not watching the ball or every block. They are focused on their area of responsibility and would have no idea what is going on at other parts of the field.

Peace

[bigjohn]

That is a bunch of Bull!

It is clear to see most of officials observed the player. You can play your little game all you want. The kid should not have been back in the game per the memo from the DOD!
That is clear.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

yeah, what were they all doing while he was being attended to an helped off the field?

Honestly ... except for the first few seconds, where I'm trying to determine if I need to stop the clock, I (and most official) generally see very little or nothing of the injured player. Kill play and then get out of the way. Most of these kids are pretty immediately surrounded by 6 coaches, 3 trainers, the occasional Dad, and 9 players. At most, if anything, we're trying to get players to back off. Once a players on the ground, I'm usually the last one to know what happened to a kid.

And no, no matter how loudly you might proclaim it ... this is not "bull".

[asdf]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

yeah, what were they all doing while he was being attended to an helped off the field?

Doing what they were supposed to do.

They don't put themselves into the medical evaluation. The medical staff is now diagnosing, we don't diagnose, they do.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

yeah, what were they all doing while he was being attended to an helped off the field?

Staying (snip) out of the way of the people who actually know what they (snip) they're doing. That's what they were all doing.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

You are correct, there are 5 officials that should have seen this.

If you state this as fact, then you are lying.