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[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by mcmcleod

I posted on here to get an answer. ... Make sure before you respond to take a deep breath, and realize I am looking for answers not daggers. Everyone makes mistakes...

MC... I believe you got an answer. The play you described is legal, if it was run as you described. You posted us no video, so we cannot tell you if the play on the field was legal.

Where you rubbed a few the wrong way was the "it cost us the game" quip.

NO Official is going to read that without bristling (self included). You got "daggers" because you started with daggers. One decision went in a way you disliked. Weigh that with the 60-some times your runner got tackled, the 3-6 times you failed to tackle the other team's players, or the 50-60 times the other team gained enough yards to help themselves toward a score. Your team did not succeed over 100 times. The referees (again, assuming what you say happened on the field is the same as what the referees saw happen on the field) did not succeed once.

So what, cost you the game? The ONE ... or the accumulation of the HUNDRED?

You'll find better responses in the future if you don't begin conversation with "the refs cost us the game" on a ref's site.

[HLin NC]

You've got Hudl, you've got the ability to link us a video. You want allies, show us the evidence. Not sure if you realize this but coaches have been known to overreact, misunderstand, flat out lie. Nobody that is an official here is going to render an opinion to something we don't see and get very little description.

This is The Official Forum, not the Coaches P!$$ & Moan Forum. Scuttle on over to Coach Huey if you are looking for sympathy.

[Reffing Rev.]

When coaches ask me about plays like this I usually say something like...if when it happens it appears to be either simulating a snap or action intended to cause B to encroach then it is a false start, but I can't say without seeing it for sure whether it is legal or not.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Where you rubbed a few the wrong way was the "it cost us the game" quip.

NO Official is going to read that without bristling (self included).

Then there's something mind-corrupting about officiating.

You got "daggers" because you started with daggers. One decision went in a way you disliked.

"Cost us the game" is a very, very common remark. It's said, and at least arguably correctly, even when the various "costs" during a game, tournament, or season add up to much more than the difference. But this is not crooked accounting.

If a candidate loses an election by 100 votes, and there were many factors that each caused hir to get 200 fewer votes, each of them can rightly be said to have cost hir the election. It's saying that if everything else were kept the same, this difference would produce that difference, and that's a sensible way to discuss it. If actions by elections officials could've been among the factors that each caused the candidate to get 200 votes fewer, someone's saying so should not cause elections officials everywhere in the world to bristle.

[JRutledge]

Robert,

More reasons coaches never get it. You come to places like that and do nothing but complain, then get upset when you get the answer. Look until coaches are required to take rules test or know what it is like to actually apply rules then just complain about them, no official is going to buy your guy's crap about what should have or should not have been called. Even when officials disagree, we have a since of what the darn rules are supposed to be. You guys on the other hand, claim something is illegal because you do not like the result.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

"Cost us the game" is a very, very common remark. It's said, and at least arguably correctly, even when the various "costs" during a game, tournament, or season add up to much more than the difference. But this is not crooked accounting.

It might work better if he had said, "cost us our last chance to make up for all of our other mistakes throughout the game."

Might.