Who thinks these two are IG??

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

There's a reason he's throwing on the run -- the pressure he's under.

Of course. But players are under pressure often and still throw the ball to a receiver. It is not impossible to do so and some times those are planned to make a throw on the run or while moving.

Originally Posted by Rich

Part of the decision making process is understanding that the ball may not get to a receiver -- but it's expected to get *near* a receiver.

And "near" is going to be subjective. I just do not expect a HS QB to be Tom Brady or Peyton Manning on their throws either. And it looked like the second pass was a duck that could not fly.

Peace

[rockyroad]

In the first play, the QB is rolling to his left and has to throw across his body yet still manages to throw the ball about 30 yards downfireld and another 10 yards out of bounds. In the second, rolling to his right and only throws the ball about 14 yards. Not sure how you factor "ability" into not calling IG on the second when he has clearly demonstrated the ability to throw the ball down the field.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

In the first play, the QB is rolling to his left and has to throw across his body yet still manages to throw the ball about 30 yards downfireld and another 10 yards out of bounds. In the second, rolling to his right and only throws the ball about 14 yards. Not sure how you factor "ability" into not calling IG on the second when he has clearly demonstrated the ability to throw the ball down the field.

You don't think the 10-yards out of bounds part adds some credibility to the idea that this kid is not incredibly accurate on the run?

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

You don't think the 10-yards out of bounds part adds some credibility to the idea that this kid is not incredibly accurate on the run?

He hit his mark. Looks to me that his intention was to throw it 10 yds out of bounds.

After watching the clip again, I could be sold on the second one that he was trying to throw to the receivers, even if they are 10 plus yds away from where the throw landed.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by OKREF

He hit his mark. Looks to me that his intention was to throw it 10 yds out of bounds.

After watching the clip again, I could be sold on the second one that he was trying to throw to the receivers, even if they are 10 plus yds away from where the throw landed.

Ten yards away is not the far off if you ask me. And if it is short that is not unusual for a HS QB. Even if he was dumping the throw, he made it look good enough for me. The rules do not say how close you have to be, but to me based off of experience, if a QB gets it that close, I am not going to nitpick his intent. I thought the throw was at least in the direction of a receiver and that is mostly good enough for me.

Peace

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

You don't think the 10-yards out of bounds part adds some credibility to the idea that this kid is not incredibly accurate on the run?

Seems like pretty much everyone is saying that the first is IG - that he purposefully threw it out there. To then turn around and say that the second isn't IG because the kid can't throw (doesn't have the ability) just doesn't make sense to me. Shrug...

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Seems like pretty much everyone is saying that the first is IG - that he purposefully threw it out there. To then turn around and say that the second isn't IG because the kid can't throw (doesn't have the ability) just doesn't make sense to me. Shrug...

The first throw was in the sidelines with almost no strength on the throw and no one to throw to. He did not throw the ball a long way and he was not trying to be accurate. The second throw was in the field of play and in the direction of a receiver which is obvious or one would not have come back into the picture. Now was he dumping the throw? Maybe, but if it was not flagged before, why not do the same thing again?

And there is enough doubt on the second throw that people here are not saying this is an obvious IG call on the second throw. So much so that they said if they were evaluating they would not even say anything either way. That is telling to me when on a play like this if there is doubt, it is not a foul.

Peace

[Welpe]

FWIW, I think the second is an obvious grounding. Just my own opinion.