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Old Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:42pm
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Are the game officials supposed to be baby sitters?

It was bad enough as discussed in the tobacco thread, but is Fed actually meddling in things like transport'n to & from events?! Even if they don't make the game officials responsible, it just seems like a bizarre detail for a national federation to get involved with. Even for state athletic ass'ns that seems like back seat driving.
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Old Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:49pm
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Are the game officials supposed to be baby sitters?

It was bad enough as discussed in the tobacco thread, but is Fed actually meddling in things like transport'n to & from events?! Even if they don't make the game officials responsible, it just seems like a bizarre detail for a national federation to get involved with. Even for state athletic ass'ns that seems like back seat driving.
The NF is saying that we are not to require D'Qd players off the field like other levels require. If teams want to do so that is on them.

And this has nothing to do with the tobacco debate at all. You just want to muddy the waters unnecessarily.

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Old Fri Sep 27, 2013, 01:42pm
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So, coach, if a player was ejected for something like this, what would your response have been? If you didn't see it, and the player denied it, would you defer to the officials' judgement?
All I can say is it depends.

Most kids lie, I usually know the ones that don't. As a rule I would tell the kid "the official saw it and you are done for this game and next week."
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Old Fri Sep 27, 2013, 01:49pm
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I've been calling since '94 and I don't recall any POE about what to do or where an ejected player goes. I think you are confusing with an ejected coach.

Once an ejected player steps off the field, he's the head coach and school administration's problem to figure out.
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Old Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:05pm
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I've been calling since '94 and I don't recall any POE about what to do or where an ejected player goes. I think you are confusing with an ejected coach.
That must be it. I recall it being about ejections. And now that you mention it, I think I do remember the change about coaches.

Thanks for the reminder.
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Old Fri Sep 27, 2013, 02:09pm
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All I can say is it depends.

Most kids lie, I usually know the ones that don't. As a rule I would tell the kid "the official saw it and you are done for this game and next week."
Not that it matters from an officiating point of view, but what would happen beyond that? Any particular punishment (extra running, bear crawls, and long chat about his conduct and future with the team, etc)?

And in your area, how do you think other coaches would handle this?

I'll say for the most part the coaches here are pretty even keel guys. Most are also teachers/administrators at the schools and have an interest that goes beyond just winning games. There's only one school (at the varsity level) where we wonder about the sportsmanship of the team which we think is hampered by the coaching.

Just curious what your (and perhaps everyone else's) experience with coaches is on these types of things.
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Old Fri Sep 27, 2013, 07:43pm
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The NF is saying that we are not to require D'Qd players off the field like other levels require. If teams want to do so that is on them.

And this has nothing to do with the tobacco debate at all. You just want to muddy the waters unnecessarily.
Somebody upthread wrote that Fed had made a POE of players remaining supervised.
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Old Fri Sep 27, 2013, 08:49pm
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Somebody upthread wrote that Fed had made a POE of players remaining supervised.
Likely because officials had been telling coaches that the ejected player had to leave the vicinity. Or because coaches had that impression regardless of referee instruction.
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Old Sat Sep 28, 2013, 09:19am
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Somebody upthread wrote that Fed had made a POE of players remaining supervised.
I am aware and I am not remembering such a POE. But I have read other statements that suggest just that, I am just not so sure it was a POE.

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Likely because officials had been telling coaches that the ejected player had to leave the vicinity. Or because coaches had that impression regardless of referee instruction.
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Old Sat Sep 28, 2013, 09:45am
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I am aware and I am not remembering such a POE. But I have read other statements that suggest just that, I am just not so sure it was a POE.
I think I remember that POE in basketball, but I may be mistaken.
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Somebody upthread wrote that Fed had made a POE of players remaining supervised.
I did. And I confused it with removing DQ'd coaches.
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