Concussion Rule in Ohio

[bigjohn]

Funny thing you would ask that I have taught driver training for 6 years logging thousands of hours in the car with new drivers. I know my lanes!

I also know the rules and have been to many rules meetings and spent countless hours studying them and hundreds of hours in football games and thousands of hours in football practices. So to call me ignorant of the ways officials should call a football rule is really a stupid statement based on your own ignorance of my life and experiences. Get over yourself.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Funny thing you would ask that I have taught driver training for 6 years logging thousands of hours in the car with new drivers. I know my lanes!

I also know the rules and have been to many rules meetings and spent countless hours studying them and hundreds of hours in football games and thousands of hours in football practices. So to call me ignorant of the ways officials should call a football rule is really a stupid statement based on your own ignorance of my life and experiences. Get over yourself.

And your medical degree is in what?

Peace

[bigjohn]

REFS MAKE THE CALL

Under Ohio’s new concussion law, referees are charged with removing a player who exhibits signs and symptoms of concussion. Ohio’s law is the rare concussion law to name referees in this task.

Once a player is removed on suspicion of concussion, the athlete cannot return to play that same day even if medical personnel believe the player has not suffered a concussion.

“If we get down to the nitty gritty of the game and some stud player gets hurt and you direct them out, you’re going to take some abuse,” said Carl Davidson, who is beginning his 29th season as a football referee.

Lawmakers felt including referees in removing a player would add an extra layer of protection, as they are right there with some of the best vantage points to see a hard hit or symptoms of a concussion.


Friday Night Ohio

[HLin NC]

Not seeming to be much different than in NC, we send them off to be seen by the Approved Health Provider. Our burden has been met. If the AHP clears them, we're out of it.

I have been calling football since 1994. I have never went and analyzed a player lying on the ground. I blow my whistle, stop the clock, and call for the trainer. I have never once inserted myself into any discussion with the staff while a player has been attended to.

If I see a player up and around showing signs of a possible concussion, I will advise the coach that player needs looked at and whatever sign I observed that led me to that conclusion. It's his issue after that.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

Not seeming to be much different than in NC, we send them off to be seen by the Approved Health Provider. Our burden has been met. If the AHP clears them, we're out of it.

I have been calling football since 1994. I have never went and analyzed a player lying on the ground. I blow my whistle, stop the clock, and call for the trainer. I have never once inserted myself into any discussion with the staff while a player has been attended to.

If I see a player up and around showing signs of a possible concussion, I will advise the coach that player needs looked at and whatever sign I observed that led me to that conclusion. It's his issue after that.

The bolded part is where the officials' responsibility for observing the signs, symptoms, and behaviors kicks in.....

In this play, the officials should be aware that a player down for a while is back in the game so soon. If they don't observe anything unusual upon his return, they allow him to stay. If they observe the siggs, symptons or behaviors, they send him out.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Funny thing you would ask that I have taught driver training for 6 years logging thousands of hours in the car with new drivers. I know my lanes!

I also know the rules and have been to many rules meetings and spent countless hours studying them and hundreds of hours in football games and thousands of hours in football practices. So to call me ignorant of the ways officials should call a football rule is really a stupid statement based on your own ignorance of my life and experiences. Get over yourself.

You don't know the rules....and you don't know how rules are applied, you think everything is black and white....

That makes you ignorant on the rules.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by asdf

You don't know the rules....and you don't know how rules are applied, you think everything is black and white....

That makes you ignorant on the rules.

Actually there's a significant difference between being simply ignorant, and being, unfortunately, stupid.

Ignorance is usually caused by a simple lack of knowledge, which can be easily corrected by providing the knowledge necessary to elleviate the problem. Stupid is an entirely different matter, and at times can prove to be uncorrectable.

[bigjohn]

So it is stupid of me to think that 5 trained officials of Division 1 State Finals caliber should be able to see that a kid clearly was showing signs of a head injury and that the medical staff was checking to see if he was concussed?

I should not assume that any of them noticed that he was definitely wobbly and apparently woosy and probably had no idea where he crapped last. I should assume that they were carrying on with other duties that were much more important than this young man's health and that they are absolved of all fault because they have performed their duties with due diligence?